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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:54:09 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] checkpatch: Make the memory barrier test noisier
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On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 01:40:27AM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 16:50 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 07:34:55AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > That would make it seem as if all barriers are SMP no?
> > 
> > I would think any memory barrier is ordering against someone else; if
> > not smp then a device/hardware -- like for instance the hardware page
> > table walker.
> > 
> > Barriers are fundamentally about order; and order only makes sense if
> > there's more than 1 party to the game.
> 
> But not necessarily more than 1 kind of parties. It is perfectly
> possible to have a barrier against other threads running the same
> function.

Then that makes a good comment ;-)

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