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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Richard Davies <richard@arachsys.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hush Bensen <hush.bensen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: increase the high order pages in the watermarks
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:52:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130806185255.GE715@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130806160838.GI1845@cmpxchg.org>

On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:08:38PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 06:06:33PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > Prevent the scaling down to reduce the watermarks too much.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  mm/page_alloc.c | 3 ++-
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > index 4401983..b32ecde 100644
> > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > @@ -1665,7 +1665,8 @@ static bool __zone_watermark_ok(struct zone *z, int order, unsigned long mark,
> >  		free_pages -= z->free_area[o].nr_free << o;
> >  
> >  		/* Require fewer higher order pages to be free */
> > -		min >>= 1;
> > +		if (o < (pageblock_order >> 2))
> > +			min >>= 1;
> 
> Okay, bear with me here:
>
> After an allocation, the watermark has to be met, all available pages
> considered.  That is reasonable because we don't want to deadlock and
> order-0 pages can be served from any page block.
> 
> Now say we have an order-2 allocation: in addition to the order-0 view
> on the watermark, after the allocation a quarter of the watermark has
> to be met with order-2 pages and up.  Okay, maybe we always want a few
> < PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER pages at our disposal, who knows.
>
> Then it kind of sizzles out towards higher order pages but it always
> requires the remainder to be positive, i.e. at least one page at the
> checked order available.  Only the actually requested order is not
> checked, so for an order-9 we only make sure that we could serve at
> least one order-8 page, maybe more depending on the zone size.

Argh, brainfart.  It subtracts free order-8 and what's left is order-9
and up.  So it makes sure there are watermark >> 9 worth of order-9
and up page blocks available after the allocation of an order-9 page.

> You're proposing to check at least for
> 
>   (watermark - min_watermark) >> (pageblock_order >> 2)
> 
> worth of order-8 pages instead.

Wouldn't it be enough to meet watermarks from an order-0 perspective,
maybe require *some* buffer up to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, and then be
okay with a single order-n page?  Why do we need more than one?

Anyway, I think the changelog should be a bit more verbose about the
motivation ;-)

Thanks!

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-06 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-02 16:06 [PATCH 0/9] adding compaction to zone_reclaim_mode v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm: zone_reclaim: remove ZONE_RECLAIM_LOCKED Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-07 15:13   ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: scan all memory with /proc/sys/vm/compact_memory Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:45   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-06  5:50     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: don't depend on kswapd to invoke reset_isolation_suitable Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 19:32   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: reset before initializing the scan cursors Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 19:44   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: compaction: don't require high order pages below min wmark Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:35   ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-06 13:23   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-07 15:42   ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-07 16:14     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-07 16:47       ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-08  0:59         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: increase the high order pages in the watermarks Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:36   ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-06 16:08   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-08-06 18:52     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2013-08-07 13:18     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-07 15:43   ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: export compact_zone_order() Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:37   ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-07 15:48   ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: zone_reclaim: after a successful zone_reclaim check the min watermark Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:38   ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-07 15:53   ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: zone_reclaim: compaction: add compaction to zone_reclaim_mode Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-04 16:55   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-05 18:38     ` Rik van Riel
2013-08-07 16:18     ` Mel Gorman
2013-08-07 23:48       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-08-08  8:22         ` Mel Gorman

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