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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <klamm@yandex-team.ru>, metin d <metdos@yahoo.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 10/10] mm: workingset: keep shadow entries in check
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 19:10:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130603171031.GD8923@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130603150154.GE15576@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 11:01:54AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 10:22:09AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 02:04:06PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > 2. a list of files that contain shadow entries is maintained.  If the
> > >    global number of shadows exceeds a certain threshold, a shrinker is
> > >    activated that reclaims old entries from the mappings.  This is
> > >    heavy-handed but it should not be a common case and is only there
> > >    to protect from accidentally/maliciously induced OOM kills.
> > 
> > Grrr.. another global files list. We've been trying rather hard to get
> > rid of the first one :/
> > 
> > I see why you want it but ugh.
> 
> I'll try to make it per-SB like the inode list.  It probably won't be
> per-SB shrinkers because of the global nature of the shadow limit, but
> at least per-SB inode lists should be doable.

per have per-cpu-per-sb lists, see file_sb_list_{add,del} and
do_file_list_for_each_entry()

> > I have similar worries for your global time counter, large machines
> > might thrash on that one cacheline.
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> So I'm trying the following idea: instead of the global time counter,
> have per-zone time counters and store the zone along with those local
> timestamps in the shadow entries (nid | zid | time).  On refault, we
> can calculate the zone-local distance first and then use the inverse
> of the zone's eviction proportion to scale it to a global distance.

The thinking is since that's the same granularity as the zone lock,
you're likely to at least trash the zone lock in equal measure?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-03 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-30 18:03 [patch 00/10] mm: thrash detection-based file cache sizing Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:03 ` [patch 01/10] mm: page_alloc: zone round-robin allocator Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:03 ` [patch 02/10] lib: radix-tree: radix_tree_delete_item() Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:03 ` [patch 03/10] mm: shmem: save one radix tree lookup when truncating swapped pages Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 04/10] mm: filemap: move radix tree hole searching here Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 05/10] mm + fs: prepare for non-page entries in page cache radix trees Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 06/10] mm + fs: store shadow entries in page cache Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 07/10] mm + fs: provide refault distance to page cache allocations Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 08/10] mm: make global_dirtyable_memory() available to other mm code Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 09/10] mm: thrash detection-based file cache sizing Johannes Weiner
2013-06-07 14:16   ` Roman Gushchin
2013-06-07 17:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 18:04 ` [patch 10/10] mm: workingset: keep shadow entries in check Johannes Weiner
2013-06-03  8:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-03 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-03 17:10       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-06-06 18:31         ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-03  8:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-03 15:20     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-03 17:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-03 18:12         ` Johannes Weiner
2013-06-03 18:52           ` Peter Zijlstra

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