From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v3 -mm 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:57:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130529155756.GH10224@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130529130538.GD10224@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Wed 29-05-13 15:05:38, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 27-05-13 19:13:08, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > Nevertheless I have encountered an issue while testing the huge number
> > of groups scenario. And the issue is not limitted to only to this
> > scenario unfortunately. As memcg iterators use per node-zone-priority
> > cache to prevent from over reclaim it might quite easily happen that
> > the walk will not visit all groups and will terminate the loop either
> > prematurely or skip some groups. An example could be the direct reclaim
> > racing with kswapd. This might cause that the loop misses over limit
> > groups so no pages are scanned and so we will fall back to all groups
> > reclaim.
>
> And after some more testing and head scratching it turned out that
> fallbacks to pass#2 I was seeing are caused by something else. It is
> not race between iterators but rather reclaiming from zone DMA which
> has troubles to scan anything despite there are pages on LRU and so we
> fall back. I have to look into that more but what-ever the issue is it
> shouldn't be related to the patch series.
Think I know what is going on. get_scan_count sees relatively small
amount of pages in the lists (around 2k). This means that get_scan_count
will tell us to scan nothing for DEF_PRIORITY (as the DMA32 is usually
~16M) then the DEF_PRIORITY is basically no-op and we have to wait and
fall down to a priority which actually let us scan something.
Hmm, maybe ignoring soft reclaim for DMA zone would help to reduce
one pointless loop over groups.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-29 15:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-13 7:46 [patch v3 0/3 -mm] Soft limit rework Michal Hocko
2013-05-13 7:46 ` [patch v3 -mm 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-05-15 8:34 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 22:12 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-16 22:15 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 7:16 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17 7:12 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17 16:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-17 16:57 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 17:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-17 17:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-20 14:44 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-21 6:53 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg: track children in soft limit excess to improve soft limit Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] memcg, vmscan: Do not attempt soft limit reclaim if it would not scan anything Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] memcg: Track all children over limit in the root Michal Hocko
2013-05-27 17:20 ` [PATCH] memcg: enhance memcg iterator to support predicates Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 13:05 ` [patch v3 -mm 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 15:57 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-05-29 20:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-05-30 8:45 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-29 14:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-30 8:36 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-13 7:46 ` [patch v3 -mm 2/3] memcg: Get rid of soft-limit tree infrastructure Michal Hocko
2013-05-15 8:38 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 22:16 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-13 7:46 ` [patch v3 -mm 3/3] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim Michal Hocko
2013-05-15 8:42 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 7:50 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-16 23:12 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-17 7:34 ` Michal Hocko
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