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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jenifer Hopper <jhopper@us.ibm.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Cody P Schafer <cody@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hugh Dickens <hughd@google.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Heesub Shin <heesub.shin@samsung.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv12 2/4] zbud: add to mm/
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 11:34:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130529113434.b2ced4cc1e66c7a0a520d908@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130529154500.GB428@cerebellum>

On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:45:00 -0500 Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> > > +struct zbud_page {
> > > +	union {
> > > +		struct page page;
> > > +		struct {
> > > +			unsigned long donotuse;
> > > +			u16 first_chunks;
> > > +			u16 last_chunks;
> > > +			struct list_head buddy;
> > > +			struct list_head lru;
> > > +		};
> > > +	};
> > > +};
> > 
> > Whoa.  So zbud scribbles on existing pageframes?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 
> > Please tell us about this, in some detail.  How is it done and why is
> > this necessary?
> > 
> > Presumably the pageframe must be restored at some stage, so this code
> > has to be kept in sync with external unrelated changes to core MM?
> 
> Yes, this is done in free_zbud_page().
> 
> > 
> > Why was it implemented in this fashion rather than going into the main
> > `struct page' definition and adding the appropriate unionised fields?
> 
> Yes, modifying the struct page is the cleaner way.  I thought that adding more
> convolution to struct page would create more friction on the path to getting
> this merged.  Plus overlaying the struct page was the approach used by zsmalloc
> and so I was thinking more along these lines.

I'd be interested in seeing what the modifications to struct page look
like.  It really is the better way.

> If you'd rather add the zbud fields directly into unions in struct page,
> I'm ok with that if you are.
> 
> Of course, this doesn't avoid having to reset the fields for the page allocator
> before we free them.  Even slub/slob reset the mapcount before calling
> __free_page(), for example.
> 
> > 
> > I worry about any code which independently looks at the pageframe
> > tables and expects to find page struts there.  One example is probably
> > memory_failure() but there are probably others.

^^ this, please.  It could be kinda fatal.

> > > 
> > > ...
> > >
> > > +int zbud_alloc(struct zbud_pool *pool, int size, gfp_t gfp,
> > > +			unsigned long *handle)
> > > +{
> > > +	int chunks, i, freechunks;
> > > +	struct zbud_page *zbpage = NULL;
> > > +	enum buddy bud;
> > > +	struct page *page;
> > > +
> > > +	if (size <= 0 || gfp & __GFP_HIGHMEM)
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +	if (size > PAGE_SIZE)
> > > +		return -E2BIG;
> > 
> > Means "Argument list too long" and isn't appropriate here.
> 
> Ok, I need a return value other than -EINVAL to convey to the user that the
> allocation is larger than what the allocator can hold. I don't see an existing
> errno that would be more suited for that.  Do you have a suggestion?

ENOMEM perhaps.  That's also somewhat misleading, but I guess there's
precedent for ENOMEM meaning "allocation too large" as well as "out
of memory".

> > > +int zbud_reclaim_page(struct zbud_pool *pool, unsigned int retries)
> > > +{
> > > +	int i, ret, freechunks;
> > > +	struct zbud_page *zbpage;
> > > +	unsigned long first_handle = 0, last_handle = 0;
> > > +
> > > +	spin_lock(&pool->lock);
> > > +	if (!pool->ops || !pool->ops->evict || list_empty(&pool->lru) ||
> > > +			retries == 0) {
> > > +		spin_unlock(&pool->lock);
> > > +		return -EINVAL;
> > > +	}
> > > +	for (i = 0; i < retries; i++) {
> > > +		zbpage = list_tail_entry(&pool->lru, struct zbud_page, lru);
> > > +		list_del(&zbpage->lru);
> > > +		list_del(&zbpage->buddy);
> > > +		/* Protect zbpage against free */
> > 
> > Against free by who?  What other code paths can access this page at
> > this time?
> 
> zbud has no way of serializing with the user (zswap) to prevent it calling
> zbud_free() during zbud reclaim.  To prevent the zbud page from being freed
> while reclaim is operating on it, we set the reclaim flag in the struct page.
> zbud_free() checks this flag and, if set, only sets the chunk length of the
> allocation to 0, but does not actually free the zbud page.  That is left to
> this reclaim path.

Sounds strange.  Page refcounting is a well-established protocol and
works well in other places?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-29 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-20 16:26 [PATCHv12 0/4] zswap: compressed swap caching Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 1/4] debugfs: add get/set for atomic types Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 17:42   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 2/4] zbud: add to mm/ Seth Jennings
2013-05-21  3:37   ` Bob Liu
2013-05-28 21:59   ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 15:45     ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 18:34       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-05-29 20:42         ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 20:48           ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 21:09             ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-05-29 21:29               ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-30 17:43                 ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-30 21:20                   ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-31  1:48                     ` Bob Liu
2013-06-03 13:48                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-29 20:45         ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 3/4] zswap: " Seth Jennings
2013-05-21  3:31   ` Bob Liu
2013-05-28 21:59   ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 14:57     ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 18:29       ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 19:50         ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 19:57           ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-29 21:08             ` Seth Jennings
2013-05-29 21:16               ` Andrew Morton
2013-05-20 16:26 ` [PATCHv12 4/4] zswap: add documentation Seth Jennings

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