From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] memcg: use css_get/put when charging/uncharging kmem
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 09:54:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130524075420.GA24813@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519C838B.9060609@huawei.com>
Sorry, I have missed this. CCing would help. Anyway putting myself to CC
now :P
On Wed 22-05-13 16:36:27, Li Zefan wrote:
> On 2013/5/18 2:08, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 03:04:06PM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
> >> + /*
> >> + * Releases a reference taken in kmem_cgroup_css_offline in case
> >> + * this last uncharge is racing with the offlining code or it is
> >> + * outliving the memcg existence.
> >> + *
> >> + * The memory barrier imposed by test&clear is paired with the
> >> + * explicit one in kmem_cgroup_css_offline.
> >
> > Paired with the wmb to achieve what?
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/4/190
"
! > + css_get(&memcg->css);
! I think that you need a write memory barrier here because css_get
! nor memcg_kmem_mark_dead implies it. memcg_uncharge_kmem uses
! memcg_kmem_test_and_clear_dead which imply a full memory barrier but it
! should see the elevated reference count. No?
!
! > + /*
! > + * We need to call css_get() first, because memcg_uncharge_kmem()
! > + * will call css_put() if it sees the memcg is dead.
! > + */
! > memcg_kmem_mark_dead(memcg);
"
Does it make sense to you Tejun?
> >
> >> + */
> >> if (memcg_kmem_test_and_clear_dead(memcg))
> >> - mem_cgroup_put(memcg);
> >> + css_put(&memcg->css);
> >
> > The other side is wmb, so there gotta be something which wants to read
> > which were written before wmb here but the only thing after the
> > barrier is css_put() which doesn't need such thing, so I'm lost on
> > what the barrier pair is achieving here.
> >
> > In general, please be *very* explicit about what's going on whenever
> > something is depending on barrier pairs. It'll make it easier for
> > both the author and reviewers to actually understand what's going on
> > and why it's necessary.
> >
> > ...
> >> @@ -5858,23 +5856,39 @@ static int memcg_init_kmem(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, struct cgroup_subsys *ss)
> >> return mem_cgroup_sockets_init(memcg, ss);
> >> }
> >>
> >> -static void kmem_cgroup_destroy(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> >> +static void kmem_cgroup_css_offline(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> >> {
> >> - mem_cgroup_sockets_destroy(memcg);
> >> + if (!memcg_kmem_is_active(memcg))
> >> + return;
> >>
> >> + /*
> >> + * kmem charges can outlive the cgroup. In the case of slab
> >> + * pages, for instance, a page contain objects from various
> >> + * processes. As we prevent from taking a reference for every
> >> + * such allocation we have to be careful when doing uncharge
> >> + * (see memcg_uncharge_kmem) and here during offlining.
> >> + *
> >> + * The idea is that that only the _last_ uncharge which sees
> >> + * the dead memcg will drop the last reference. An additional
> >> + * reference is taken here before the group is marked dead
> >> + * which is then paired with css_put during uncharge resp. here.
> >> + *
> >> + * Although this might sound strange as this path is called when
> >> + * the reference has already dropped down to 0 and shouldn't be
> >> + * incremented anymore (css_tryget would fail) we do not have
> >
> > Hmmm? offline is called on cgroup destruction regardless of css
> > refcnt. The above comment seems a bit misleading.
> >
>
> The comment is wrong. I'll fix it.
Ohh, right. "Althouth this might sound strange as this path is called from
css_offline when the reference might have dropped down to 0 and shouldn't ..."
Sounds better?
> >> + * other options because of the kmem allocations lifetime.
> >> + */
> >> + css_get(&memcg->css);
> >> +
> >> + /* see comment in memcg_uncharge_kmem() */
> >> + wmb();
> >> memcg_kmem_mark_dead(memcg);
> >
> > Is the wmb() trying to prevent reordering between css_get() and
> > memcg_kmem_mark_dead()? If so, it isn't necessary - the compiler
> > isn't allowed to reorder two atomic ops (they're all asm volatiles)
> > and the visibility order is guaranteed by the nature of the two
> > operations going on here - both perform modify-and-test on one end of
> > the operations.
As I have copied my comment from the earlier thread above.
css_get does atomic_add which doesn't imply any barrier AFAIK and
memcg_kmem_mark_dead uses a simple set_bit which doesn't imply it
either. What am I missing?
> >
>
> Yeah, I think you're right.
>
> > It could be argued that having memory barriers is better for
> > completeness of mark/test interface but then those barriers should
> > really moved into memcg_kmem_mark_dead() and its clearing counterpart.
> >
> > While it's all clever and dandy, my recommendation would be just using
> > a lock for synchronization. It isn't a hot path. Why be clever?
> >
>
> I don't quite like adding a lock not to protect data but just ensure code
> orders.
Agreed.
> Michal, what's your preference? I want to be sure that everyone is happy
> so the next version will hopefully be the last version.
I still do not see why the barrier is not needed and the lock seems too
big hammer.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-24 7:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-17 7:02 [PATCH 0/12][V3] memcg: make memcg's life cycle the same as cgroup Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:03 ` [PATCH 1/9] Revert "memcg: avoid dangling reference count in creation failure." Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:03 ` [PATCH 2/9] memcg, kmem: fix reference count handling on the error path Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:03 ` [PATCH 3/9] memcg: use css_get() in sock_update_memcg() Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:03 ` [PATCH 4/9] memcg: don't use mem_cgroup_get() when creating a kmemcg cache Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:04 ` [PATCH 5/9] memcg: use css_get/put when charging/uncharging kmem Li Zefan
2013-05-17 18:08 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-22 8:36 ` Li Zefan
2013-05-24 7:54 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-05-30 5:48 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-30 15:12 ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17 7:04 ` [PATCH 6/9] memcg: use css_get/put for swap memcg Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:04 ` [PATCH 7/9] memcg: don't need to get a reference to the parent Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:05 ` [PATCH 8/9] memcg: kill memcg refcnt Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:05 ` [PATCH 9/9] memcg: don't need to free memcg via RCU or workqueue Li Zefan
2013-05-17 7:06 ` [PATCH 0/12][V3] memcg: make memcg's life cycle the same as cgroup Li Zefan
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