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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] kernel: might_fault does not imply might_sleep
Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 13:21:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130521112126.GJ26912@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130519093526.GD19883@redhat.com>

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:35:26PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 08:40:41PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 02:16:10PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > There are several ways to make sure might_fault
> > > calling function does not sleep.
> > > One is to use it on kernel or otherwise locked memory - apparently
> > > nfs/sunrpc does this. As noted by Ingo, this is handled by the
> > > migh_fault() implementation in mm/memory.c but not the one in
> > > linux/kernel.h so in the current code might_fault() schedules
> > > differently depending on CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING, which is an undesired
> > > semantical side effect.
> > > 
> > > Another is to call pagefault_disable: in this case the page fault
> > > handler will go to fixups processing and we get an error instead of
> > > sleeping, so the might_sleep annotation is a false positive.
> > > vhost driver wants to do this now in order to reuse socket ops
> > > under a spinlock (and fall back on slower thread handler
> > > on error).
> > 
> > Are you using the assumption that spin_lock() implies preempt_disable() implies
> > pagefault_disable()? Note that this assumption isn't valid for -rt where the
> > spinlock becomes preemptible but we'll not disable pagefaults.
> 
> No, I was not assuming that. What I'm trying to say is that a caller
> that does something like this under a spinlock:
> 	preempt_disable
> 	pagefault_disable
> 	error = copy_to_user
> 	pagefault_enable
> 	preempt_enable_no_resched
> 
> is not doing anything wrong and should not get a warning,
> as long as error is handled correctly later.
> Right?

Aside from the no_resched() thing which Steven already explained and my
previous email asking why you need the preempt_disable() at all, that
should indeed work.

The reason I was asking was that I wasn't sure you weren't doing:

  spin_lock(&my_lock);
  error = copy_to_user();
  spin_unlock(&my_lock);

and expecting the copy_to_user() to always take the exception table
route. This works on mainline (since spin_lock implies a preempt disable
and preempt_disable is the same as pagefault_disable). However as should
be clear by now, it doesn't quite work that way for -rt.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-21 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-16 11:07 [PATCH v2 00/10] uaccess: better might_sleep/might_fault behavior Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] asm-generic: uaccess s/might_sleep/might_fault/ Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 13:29   ` Catalin Marinas
2013-05-16 11:10 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] frv: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:11 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] m32r: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:11 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] microblaze: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] mn10300: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] powerpc: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 13:59   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-22 14:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 13:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 13:11       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 13:30         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-16 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] tile: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 13:33   ` Chris Metcalf
2013-05-16 11:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 11:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] kernel: might_fault does not imply might_sleep Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 18:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-19  9:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-19 12:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-19 13:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-19 16:06           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-19 16:40             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-19 20:23               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-19 20:35                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-21 11:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-21 11:21       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-05-21 11:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-21 13:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22  9:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 10:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 20:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 20:36     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22  9:25 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] uaccess: better might_sleep/might_fault behavior Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-22  9:58   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 10:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 11:07     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-22 11:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 13:41   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-05-22 14:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-05-22 14:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] kernel: drop voluntary schedule from might_fault Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24 14:18 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] kernel: uaccess in atomic with pagefault_disable Michael S. Tsirkin

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