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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
Cc: Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	hughd@google.com, gthelen@google.com,
	Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@taobao.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/3] memcg: simply lock of page stat accounting
Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 15:28:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130516132846.GE13848@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51946071.4030101@openvz.org>

On Thu 16-05-13 08:28:33, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> >On Wed 15-05-13 16:35:08, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> >>Sha Zhengju wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>This is my second attempt to make memcg page stat lock simpler, the
> >>>first version: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg50037.html.
> >>>
> >>>In this version I investigate the potential race conditions among
> >>>page stat, move_account, charge, uncharge and try to prove it race
> >>>safe of my proposing lock scheme. The first patch is the basis of
> >>>the patchset, so if I've made some stupid mistake please do not
> >>>hesitate to point it out.
> >>
> >>I have a provocational question. Who needs these numbers? I mean
> >>per-cgroup nr_mapped and so on.
> >
> >Well, I guess it makes some sense to know how much page cache and anon
> >memory is charged to the group. I am using that to monitor the per-group
> >memory usage. I can imagine a even better coverage - something
> >/proc/meminfo like.
> >
> 
> I think page counters from lru-vectors can give enough information for that.

not for dirty and writeback data which is the next step.

> If somebody needs more detailed information there are enough ways to get it.
> Amount of mapped pages can be estimated via summing rss counters from mm-structs.
> Exact numbers can be obtained via examining /proc/pid/pagemap.

How do you find out whether given pages were charged to the group of
interest - e.g. shared data or taks that has moved from a different
group without move_at_immigrate?

> I don't think that simulating 'Mapped' line in /proc/mapfile is a worth reason
> for adding such weird stuff into the rmap code on map/unmap paths.

The accounting code is trying to be not intrusive as much as possible.
This patchset makes it more complicated without a good reason and that
is why it has been Nacked by me.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-16 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-13  5:03 Sha Zhengju
2013-05-13  5:04 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] memcg: rewrite the comment about race condition " Sha Zhengju
2013-05-13  5:05 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] memcg: alter mem_cgroup_{update,inc,dec}_page_stat() args to memcg pointer Sha Zhengju
2013-05-13 12:25   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-14  9:00     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-05-14  9:10       ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-14  0:15   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-05-14  9:03     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-05-13  5:05 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] memcg: simplify lock of memcg page stat account Sha Zhengju
2013-05-13 13:12   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-13 13:38     ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-14  9:13       ` Sha Zhengju
2013-05-14  9:28         ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-14  8:35     ` Sha Zhengju
2013-05-14  0:41 ` [PATCH V2 0/3] memcg: simply lock of page stat accounting Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-05-14  7:13   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-15 12:35 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-05-15 13:41   ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-16  4:28     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-05-16 13:28       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-05-17  5:57         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-05-17  8:38           ` Michal Hocko
2013-05-17 10:29             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2013-05-17 12:53               ` Michal Hocko

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