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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] soft reclaim rework
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:07:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130411090709.GC1488@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411084346.GB1488@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu 11-04-13 10:43:46, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Hi,
> I have retested kbuild test on a bare HW (8CPUs, 1GB RAM limited by
> mem=1G, 2GB swap partition). There are 2 groups (A, B) without any hard
> limit and group A has soft limit set to 700M (to have 70% of available
> memory). Build starts after fresh boot by extracting sources and
> make -j4 vmlinux.
> Each group works on a separate source tree. I have repeated the test 3
> times:
> 
> First some data as returned by /usr/bin/time -v:
> * Patched:
> A:
> User time (seconds): 1133.06
> User time (seconds): 1132.84
> User time (seconds): 1135.37
> 		Avg: 1133.76
> System time (seconds): 258.02
> System time (seconds): 259.33
> System time (seconds): 258.83
> 		Avg: 258.73
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 8:57.55
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 8:55.68
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 8:50.96
> 		Avg: 08:54.73
> 
> B:
> User time (seconds): 1149.22
> User time (seconds): 1153.98
> User time (seconds): 1150.37
> 		Avg: 1151.19 (101.5% of A)
> System time (seconds): 262.13
> System time (seconds): 263.31
> System time (seconds): 260.84
> 		Avg: 262.09 (101.3% of A)
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 10:13.37
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 10:17.15
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 10:05.23
> 		Avg: 10:11.92 (114.4% of A)
> 
> * Base:
> A:
> User time (seconds): 1132.58
> User time (seconds): 1140.63
> User time (seconds): 1135.68
> 		avg: 1136.30 (100.2% of A - patched)
> System time (seconds): 264.88
> System time (seconds): 263.54
> System time (seconds): 261.99
> 		avg: 263.47 (101.8 of A - patched)
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 9:48.54
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 9:50.44
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 9:44.28
> 		avg: 09:47.75 (109.9% of A - patched)
> 
> B:
> User time (seconds): 1138.32
> User time (seconds): 1135.70
> User time (seconds): 1136.80
> 		avg: 1136.94 (100.2% of A - patched)
> 
> System time (seconds): 261.56
> System time (seconds): 262.10
> System time (seconds): 262.24
> 		avg: 261.97  (100% of A - patched)
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 9:39.17
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 9:46.95
> Elapsed (wall clock) time (h:mm:ss or m:ss): 9:44.73
> 		avg: 09:47.75 (109.1% of A - patched)
> 
> While for the patched kernel soft limit helped to protect A's working
> set so it was faster (14% in the total time) than B without any limits.
> The unpatched kernel has treated them more or less equally regardless
> the softlimit setting.
> 
> If we compare patched and base kernels numbers then the overall
> situation improved slightly (A+B Elapsed time is 2% smaller) with the
> patched kernel which was quite surprising for me. Maybe a side effect of
> priority-0 soft reclaim in the base kernel.
> 
> As the variance between runs wasn't very high I have focused on the first
> run for the memory usage and reclaim statistics comparisons between the
> base and patched kernels.
> 
> * Patched:
> pgscan_direct_dma32 	252408
> pgscan_kswapd_dma32 	988928
> pgsteal_direct_dma32 	63565
> pgsteal_kswapd_dma32	905223
> 
> * Base:
> pgscan_direct_dma32 	97310	(38% of patched)
> pgscan_kswapd_dma32 	1702971	(172%)
> pgsteal_direct_dma32 	83377	(131%)
> pgsteal_kswapd_dma32 	1534616	(169.5%)
> 
> So it seems that we scanned much more on the patched kernel during the
> direct reclaim but we have reclaimed less nevertheless. This is most
> probably because there is a bigger pressure on B's LRU and we encounter
> more dirty pages so more pages are scanned in the end. In sum we scanned
> and reclaimed less (by 45% resp. 67%) though.
> 

I have moved graphs to
http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/kbuild/700-softlimit/kbuild
because I am doing tests with other soft limits and also other types of
tests. Sorry about that.

> You can find some graphs at:
> - http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/base-usage.png
> - http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/patched-usage.png
> 
> Per group charges over time.
> 
> - http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/base-usage-histogram.png
> - http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/patched-usage-histogram.png
> 
> Same here but in the histogram form to see the main tendencies.
> 
> - http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/pgscan.png
> - http://labs.suse.cz/mhocko/soft_limit_rework/pgsteal.png
> 
> Scanning and reclaiming activity comparision between the base and the
> patched kernel.
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-11  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09 12:13 Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 12:13 ` [RFC 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 13:08   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-09 13:31     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 13:57   ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 14:22     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 16:45   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-09 17:05     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14  0:42   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-14 14:34     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14 14:55       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-14 15:04         ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14 15:11           ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14 18:03           ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09 12:13 ` [RFC 2/3] memcg: Ignore soft limit until it is explicitly specified Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 13:24   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-09 13:42     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 17:10   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-09 17:22     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 12:13 ` [RFC 3/3] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim Michal Hocko
2013-04-22  2:14   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 15:37 ` [RFC 0/3] soft reclaim rework Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 15:50   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-11  8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-11  9:07   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-04-11 13:04   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-17 22:52 ` Ying Han

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