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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:08:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130409130833.GP1953@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1365509595-665-2-git-send-email-mhocko@suse.cz>

On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:13:13PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Memcg soft reclaim has been traditionally triggered from the global
> reclaim paths before calling shrink_zone. mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim
> then picked up a group which exceeds the soft limit the most and
> reclaimed it with 0 priority to reclaim at least SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX pages.
> 
> The infrastructure requires per-node-zone trees which hold over-limit
> groups and keep them up-to-date (via memcg_check_events) which is not
> cost free. Although this overhead hasn't turned out to be a bottle neck
> the implementation is suboptimal because mem_cgroup_update_tree has no
> idea which zones consumed memory over the limit so we could easily end
> up having a group on a node-zone tree having only few pages from that
> node-zone.
> 
> This patch doesn't try to fix node-zone trees management because it
> seems that integrating soft reclaim into zone shrinking sounds much
> easier and more appropriate for several reasons.
> First of all 0 priority reclaim was a crude hack which might lead to
> big stalls if the group's LRUs are big and hard to reclaim (e.g. a lot
> of dirty/writeback pages).
> Soft reclaim should be applicable also to the targeted reclaim which is
> awkward right now without additional hacks.
> Last but not least the whole infrastructure eats a lot of code[1].
> 
> After this patch shrink_zone is done in 2. First it tries to do the
> soft reclaim if appropriate (only for global reclaim for now to keep
> compatible with the current state) and fall back to ignoring soft limit
> if no group is eligible to soft reclaim or nothing has been scanned
> during the first pass. Only groups which are over their soft limit or
> any of their parent up the hierarchy is over the limit are considered
> eligible during the first pass.
> 
> TODO: remove mem_cgroup_tree_per_zone, mem_cgroup_shrink_node_zone and co.
> but maybe it would be easier for review to remove that code in a separate
> patch...

It should be in this series, though, for the diffstat :-)

> ---
> [1] TODO: put size vmlinux before/after whole clean-up

Yes!

> @@ -1984,6 +2003,27 @@ static void shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc)
>  		} while (memcg);
>  	} while (should_continue_reclaim(zone, sc->nr_reclaimed - nr_reclaimed,
>  					 sc->nr_scanned - nr_scanned, sc));
> +
> +	return nr_shrunk;
> +}
> +
> +
> +static void shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc)
> +{
> +	bool do_soft_reclaim = mem_cgroup_should_soft_reclaim(sc);
> +	unsigned long nr_scanned = sc->nr_scanned;
> +	unsigned nr_shrunk;
> +
> +	nr_shrunk = __shrink_zone(zone, sc, do_soft_reclaim);
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * No group is over the soft limit or those that are do not have
> +	 * pages in the zone we are reclaiming so we have to reclaim everybody
> +	 */
> +	if (do_soft_reclaim && (!nr_shrunk || sc->nr_scanned == nr_scanned)) {

If no pages were scanned you are doing a second pass regardless of
nr_shrunk.  If pages were scanned, nr_shrunk must have been increased
as well.  So I think you can remove all the nr_shrunk counting and
just check for scanned pages, no?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-09 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09 12:13 [RFC 0/3] soft reclaim rework Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 12:13 ` [RFC 1/3] memcg: integrate soft reclaim tighter with zone shrinking code Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 13:08   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2013-04-09 13:31     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 13:57   ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-09 14:22     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 16:45   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-09 17:05     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14  0:42   ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-14 14:34     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14 14:55       ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-14 15:04         ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14 15:11           ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-14 18:03           ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09 12:13 ` [RFC 2/3] memcg: Ignore soft limit until it is explicitly specified Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 13:24   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-09 13:42     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 17:10   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-09 17:22     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 12:13 ` [RFC 3/3] vmscan, memcg: Do softlimit reclaim also for targeted reclaim Michal Hocko
2013-04-22  2:14   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 15:37 ` [RFC 0/3] soft reclaim rework Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 15:50   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-11  8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-11  9:07   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-11 13:04   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-17 22:52 ` Ying Han

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