From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Zlatko Calusic <zcalusic@bitsync.net>,
dormando <dormando@rydia.net>,
Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:25:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130321162518.GB27848@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363525456-10448-3-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 01:04:08PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Simplistically, the anon and file LRU lists are scanned proportionally
> depending on the value of vm.swappiness although there are other factors
> taken into account by get_scan_count(). The patch "mm: vmscan: Limit
> the number of pages kswapd reclaims" limits the number of pages kswapd
> reclaims but it breaks this proportional scanning and may evenly shrink
> anon/file LRUs regardless of vm.swappiness.
>
> This patch preserves the proportional scanning and reclaim. It does mean
> that kswapd will reclaim more than requested but the number of pages will
> be related to the high watermark.
Swappiness is about page types, but this implementation compares all
LRUs against each other, and I'm not convinced that this makes sense
as there is no guaranteed balance between the inactive and active
lists. For example, the active file LRU could get knocked out when
it's almost empty while the inactive file LRU has more easy cache than
the anon lists combined.
Would it be better to compare the sum of file pages with the sum of
anon pages and then knock out the smaller pair?
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Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-17 13:04 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: vmscan: Limit the number of pages kswapd reclaims at each priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:53 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:16 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:59 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-20 16:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 0:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 0:08 ` Will Huck
2013-03-21 9:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:59 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 0:51 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 3:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 3:56 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 4:59 ` Will Huck
2013-03-22 13:01 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-05 0:05 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:32 ` Will Huck
2013-04-07 7:35 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:54 ` Will Huck
2013-04-11 5:58 ` Will Huck
2013-04-12 5:46 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-12 9:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-12 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-25 9:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-25 9:13 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-28 22:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-29 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-30 22:07 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-04-02 11:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 1:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 14:31 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:07 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:34 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-22 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 16:25 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2013-03-21 18:02 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 16:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 18:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 19:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-03-22 19:46 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: vmscan: Flatten kswapd priority loop Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:36 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:09 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 7:02 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 23:58 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 3:08 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 8:23 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 10:14 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-19 10:26 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 14:54 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:26 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:38 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: vmscan: Decide whether to compact the pgdat based on reclaim progress Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:11 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-18 11:11 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:35 ` Hillf Danton
2013-03-19 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 15:47 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 15:50 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: vmscan: Do not allow kswapd to scan at maximum priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 1:20 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 12:30 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 15:48 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd writeback pages based on dirty pages encountered, not priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:42 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:53 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-21 18:15 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-18 11:08 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:08 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: vmscan: Block kswapd if it is encountering pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:49 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:19 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-19 11:06 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:37 ` Simon Jeons
2013-03-19 10:57 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-19 10:58 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-18 11:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-03-21 16:32 ` [PATCH 07/10 -v2r1] " Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:42 ` [PATCH 07/10] " Rik van Riel
2013-03-22 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: vmscan: Have kswapd shrink slab only once per priority Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:53 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-21 16:47 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-09 6:53 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-09 8:41 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 1:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-04-10 5:23 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 9:53 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 5:21 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-04-11 10:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 10:29 ` Ric Mason
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: vmscan: Check if kswapd should writepage " Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 16:58 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:07 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 19:52 ` Rik van Riel
2013-03-17 13:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: vmscan: Move logic from balance_pgdat() to kswapd_shrink_zone() Mel Gorman
2013-03-17 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2013-03-17 15:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 17:18 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-21 18:13 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd Damien Wyart
2013-03-21 10:54 ` Zlatko Calusic
2013-03-21 11:48 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-21 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-22 14:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-03-24 19:00 ` Jiri Slaby
2013-03-25 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-09 11:06 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V2 Mel Gorman
2013-04-09 11:06 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-04-10 7:16 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-10 14:08 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 0:14 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-04-11 9:09 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 [PATCH 0/10] Reduce system disruption due to kswapd V3 Mel Gorman
2013-04-11 19:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: vmscan: Obey proportional scanning requirements for kswapd Mel Gorman
2013-04-18 15:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-04-18 15:58 ` Mel Gorman
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