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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] memcg: get rid of once-per-second cache shrinking for dead memcgs
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:55:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121116145508.GC2006@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50A5E997.6060002@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Fri 16-11-12 16:21:59, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> (2012/11/16 16:11), Glauber Costa wrote:
> > On 11/16/2012 09:07 AM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> >> (2012/11/15 22:47), Glauber Costa wrote:
> >>> On 11/15/2012 01:41 PM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
> >>>> (2012/11/15 11:54), Glauber Costa wrote:
> >>>>> The idea is to synchronously do it, leaving it up to the shrinking
> >>>>> facilities in vmscan.c and/or others. Not actively retrying shrinking
> >>>>> may leave the caches alive for more time, but it will remove the ugly
> >>>>> wakeups. One would argue that if the caches have free objects but are
> >>>>> not being shrunk, it is because we don't need that memory yet.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
> >>>>> CC: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> >>>>> CC: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> >>>>> CC: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> >>>>> CC: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree this patch but can we have a way to see the number of unaccounted
> >>>> zombie cache usage for debugging ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Acked-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> >>>>
> >>> Any particular interface in mind ?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hmm, it's debug interface and having cgroup file may be bad.....
> >> If it can be seen in bytes or some, /proc/vmstat ?
> >>
> >> out_of_track_slabs  xxxxxxx. hm ?
> >>
> > 
> > I particularly think that, being this a debug interface, it is also
> > useful to have an indication of which caches are still in place. This is
> > because the cache itself, is the best indication we have about the
> > specific workload that may be keeping it in memory.
> > 
> > I first thought debugfs could help us probing useful information out of
> > it, but given all the abuse people inflicted in debugfs... maybe we
> > could have a file in the root memcg with that information for all
> > removed memcgs? If we do that, we can go further and list the memcgs
> > that are pending due to memsw as well. memory.dangling_memcgs ?
> > 
> 
> Hm, I'm ok with it... others ?

What about memory.kmem.dangling_caches?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-16 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-15  2:54 [PATCH 0/7] fixups for kmemcg Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  0:47 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 1/7] memcg: simplify ida initialization Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 2/7] move include of workqueue.h to top of slab.h file Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  9:30   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 3/7] memcg: remove test for current->mm in memcg_stop/resume_kmem_account Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  9:28   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 4/7] memcg: replace __always_inline with plain inline Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  9:29   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 5/7] memcg: get rid of once-per-second cache shrinking for dead memcgs Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  9:41   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-15 13:47     ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-16  5:07       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-16  7:11         ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-16  7:21           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-16 14:55             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2012-11-16 15:50               ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] memcg: add comments clarifying aspects of cache attribute propagation Glauber Costa
2012-11-15  2:54 ` [PATCH 7/7] slub: drop mutex before deleting sysfs entry Glauber Costa

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