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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <pzijlstr@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>, Dan Smith <danms@us.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/33] autonuma: pte_numa() and pmd_numa()
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:54:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121011195450.GM3317@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121011165847.GO1818@redhat.com>

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 06:58:47PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:15:45PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > huh?
> > 
> > #define _PAGE_NUMA     _PAGE_PROTNONE
> > 
> > so this is effective _PAGE_PRESENT | _PAGE_PROTNONE | _PAGE_PROTNONE
> > 
> > I suspect you are doing this because there is no requirement for
> > _PAGE_NUMA == _PAGE_PROTNONE for other architectures and it was best to
> > describe your intent. Is that really the case or did I miss something
> > stupid?
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> It reminds that we need to return true in pte_present when the NUMA
> hinting page fault is on.
> 
> Hardwiring _PAGE_NUMA to _PAGE_PROTNONE conceptually is not necessary
> and it's actually an artificial restrictions. Other archs without a
> bitflag for _PAGE_PROTNONE, may want to use something else and they'll
> have to deal with pte_present too, somehow. So this is a reminder for
> them as well.
> 

That's all very reasonable.

> > >  static inline int pte_hidden(pte_t pte)
> > > @@ -420,7 +421,63 @@ static inline int pmd_present(pmd_t pmd)
> > >  	 * the _PAGE_PSE flag will remain set at all times while the
> > >  	 * _PAGE_PRESENT bit is clear).
> > >  	 */
> > > -	return pmd_flags(pmd) & (_PAGE_PRESENT | _PAGE_PROTNONE | _PAGE_PSE);
> > > +	return pmd_flags(pmd) & (_PAGE_PRESENT | _PAGE_PROTNONE | _PAGE_PSE |
> > > +				 _PAGE_NUMA);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_AUTONUMA
> > > +/*
> > > + * _PAGE_NUMA works identical to _PAGE_PROTNONE (it's actually the
> > > + * same bit too). It's set only when _PAGE_PRESET is not set and it's
> > 
> > same bit on x86, not necessarily anywhere else.
> 
> Yep. In fact before using _PAGE_PRESENT the two bits were different
> even on x86. But I unified them. If I vary them then they will become
> _PAGE_PTE_NUMA/_PAGE_PMD_NUMA and the above will fail to build without
> risk of errors.
> 

Ok.

> > 
> > _PAGE_PRESENT?
> 
> good eye ;) corrected.
> 
> > > +/*
> > > + * pte/pmd_mknuma sets the _PAGE_ACCESSED bitflag automatically
> > > + * because they're called by the NUMA hinting minor page fault.
> > 
> > automatically or atomically?
> > 
> > I assume you meant atomically but what stops two threads faulting at the
> > same time and doing to the same update? mmap_sem will be insufficient in
> > that case so what is guaranteeing the atomicity. PTL?
> 
> I meant automatically. I explained myself wrong and automatically may
> be the wrong word. It also is atomic of course but it wasn't about the
> atomic part.
> 
> So the thing is: the numa hinting page fault hooking point is this:
> 
> 	if (pte_numa(entry))
> 		return pte_numa_fixup(mm, vma, address, entry, pte, pmd);
> 
> It won't get this far:
> 
> 	entry = pte_mkyoung(entry);
> 	if (ptep_set_access_flags(vma, address, pte, entry, flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE)) {
> 
> So if I don't set _PAGE_ACCESSED in pte/pmd_mknuma, the TLB miss
> handler will have to set _PAGE_ACCESSED itself with an additional
> write on the pte/pmd later when userland touches the page. And that
> will slow us down for no good.
> 

All clear now. Letting it fall through to reach that point would be
convulated and messy. This is a better option.

> Because mknuma is only called in the numa hinting page fault context,
> it's optimal to set _PAGE_ACCESSED too, not only _PAGE_PRESENT (and
> clearing _PAGE_NUMA of course).
> 
> The basic idea, is that the numa hinting page fault can only trigger
> if userland touches the page, and after such an event, _PAGE_ACCESSED
> would be set by the hardware no matter if there is a NUMA hinting page
> fault or not (so we can optimize away the hardware action when the NUMA
> hinting page fault triggers).
> 
> I tried to reword it:
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h
> index cf1d3f0..3dc6a9b 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/pgtable.h
> @@ -449,12 +449,12 @@ static inline int pmd_numa(pmd_t pmd)
>  #endif
>  
>  /*
> - * pte/pmd_mknuma sets the _PAGE_ACCESSED bitflag automatically
> - * because they're called by the NUMA hinting minor page fault. If we
> - * wouldn't set the _PAGE_ACCESSED bitflag here, the TLB miss handler
> - * would be forced to set it later while filling the TLB after we
> - * return to userland. That would trigger a second write to memory
> - * that we optimize away by setting _PAGE_ACCESSED here.
> + * pte/pmd_mknuma sets the _PAGE_ACCESSED bitflag too because they're
> + * only called by the NUMA hinting minor page fault. If we wouldn't
> + * set the _PAGE_ACCESSED bitflag here, the TLB miss handler would be
> + * forced to set it later while filling the TLB after we return to
> + * userland. That would trigger a second write to memory that we
> + * optimize away by setting _PAGE_ACCESSED here.
>   */
>  static inline pte_t pte_mknonnuma(pte_t pte)
>  {
> 

Much better.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-11 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-03 23:50 [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 01/33] autonuma: add Documentation/vm/autonuma.txt Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:07     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:37       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 02/33] autonuma: make set_pmd_at always available Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:54   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 03/33] autonuma: export is_vma_temporary_stack() even if CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=n Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:54   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 04/33] autonuma: define _PAGE_NUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 11:01   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:43     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:48       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 05/33] autonuma: pte_numa() and pmd_numa() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 11:15   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:58     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:54       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 06/33] autonuma: teach gup_fast about pmd_numa Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 12:22   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:01       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 07/33] autonuma: mm_autonuma and task_autonuma data structures Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 12:28   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 15:24     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-11 15:57       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  0:23       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-12  0:52         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 17:15     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:06       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 08/33] autonuma: define the autonuma flags Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 13:46   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:34     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:17       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 09/33] autonuma: core autonuma.h header Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 10/33] autonuma: CPU follows memory algorithm Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 14:58   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  0:25     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12  8:29       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 11/33] autonuma: add the autonuma_last_nid in the page structure Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 12/33] autonuma: Migrate On Fault per NUMA node data Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:43   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 13/33] autonuma: autonuma_enter/exit Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 13:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 14/33] autonuma: call autonuma_setup_new_exec() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:47   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 15/33] autonuma: alloc/free/init task_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:53   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:34     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]       ` <20121011175953.GT1818@redhat.com>
2012-10-12 14:03         ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 16/33] autonuma: alloc/free/init mm_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 17/33] autonuma: prevent select_task_rq_fair to return -1 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 18/33] autonuma: teach CFS about autonuma affinity Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-05  6:41   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-05 11:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-06  2:39       ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-06 12:34         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-07  6:07           ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-08  7:03             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 19/33] autonuma: memory follows CPU algorithm and task/mm_autonuma stats collection Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-10 22:01   ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-10 22:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:28   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-13 18:06   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-15  8:24     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-15  9:20       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-15 10:00         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 20/33] autonuma: default mempolicy follow AutoNUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 20:03   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-11 18:32   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 21/33] autonuma: call autonuma_split_huge_page() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:33   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 22/33] autonuma: make khugepaged pte_numa aware Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:36   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 23/33] autonuma: retain page last_nid information in khugepaged Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:44   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 11:37     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-12 12:35       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 24/33] autonuma: split_huge_page: transfer the NUMA type from the pmd to the pte Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:45   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 25/33] autonuma: numa hinting page faults entry points Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:47   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 26/33] autonuma: reset autonuma page data when pages are freed Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 27/33] autonuma: link mm/autonuma.o and kernel/sched/numa.o Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 28/33] autonuma: add CONFIG_AUTONUMA and CONFIG_AUTONUMA_DEFAULT_ENABLED Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:50   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 29/33] autonuma: page_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 14:16   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-04 20:09   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-05 11:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 30/33] autonuma: bugcheck page_autonuma fields on newly allocated pages Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 31/33] autonuma: boost khugepaged scanning rate Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 32/33] autonuma: add migrate_allow_first_fault knob in sysfs Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 33/33] autonuma: add mm_autonuma working set estimation Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 18:39 ` [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27 Andrew Morton
2012-10-04 20:49   ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-05 23:08   ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-05 23:14   ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-05 23:57     ` Tim Chen
2012-10-06  0:11       ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-08 13:44         ` Don Morris
2012-10-08 20:34     ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-11 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 14:56   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:35     ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  0:41       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12 14:54       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 21:34 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12  1:45   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12  8:46     ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-13 18:40 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-14  4:57   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-15  8:16     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-23 16:32     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-16 13:48 ` Mel Gorman

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