From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
devel@openvz.org, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:35:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121011143559.GJ29295@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1349690780-15988-15-git-send-email-glommer@parallels.com>
On Mon 08-10-12 14:06:20, Glauber Costa wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
> ---
> Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt | 55 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 54 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt b/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> index c07f7b4..9b08548 100644
> --- a/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> @@ -71,6 +71,11 @@ Brief summary of control files.
> memory.oom_control # set/show oom controls.
> memory.numa_stat # show the number of memory usage per numa node
>
> + memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes # set/show hard limit for kernel memory
> + memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes # show current kernel memory allocation
> + memory.kmem.failcnt # show the number of kernel memory usage hits limits
> + memory.kmem.max_usage_in_bytes # show max kernel memory usage recorded
> +
> memory.kmem.tcp.limit_in_bytes # set/show hard limit for tcp buf memory
> memory.kmem.tcp.usage_in_bytes # show current tcp buf memory allocation
> memory.kmem.tcp.failcnt # show the number of tcp buf memory usage hits limits
> @@ -268,20 +273,62 @@ the amount of kernel memory used by the system. Kernel memory is fundamentally
> different than user memory, since it can't be swapped out, which makes it
> possible to DoS the system by consuming too much of this precious resource.
>
> +Kernel memory won't be accounted at all until it is limited. This allows for
until limit on a group is set.
> +existing setups to continue working without disruption. Note that it is
> +possible to account it without an effective limit by setting the limits
> +to a very high number (like RESOURCE_MAX -1page).
I have brought that up in an earlier patch already. Why not just do echo
-1 (which translates to RESOURCE_MAX internally) and be done with that.
RESOURCE_MAX-1 sounds quite inconvenient.
> The limit cannot be set
> +if the cgroup have children, or if there are already tasks in the cgroup.
I would start by stating that if children are accounted automatically if
their parent is accounted already and there is no need to set a limit to
enforce that. In fact the limit cannot be set if ....
> +
> +After a controller is first limited, it will be kept being accounted until it
group is limited not the controller.
> +is removed. The memory limitation itself, can of course be removed by writing
> +-1 to memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes
This might be confusing and one could think that also accounting would
be removed. I wouldn't mention it at all.
> +
> Kernel memory limits are not imposed for the root cgroup. Usage for the root
> -cgroup may or may not be accounted.
> +cgroup may or may not be accounted. The memory used is accumulated into
> +memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes, or in a separate counter when it makes sense.
Which separate counter? Is this about tcp kmem?
> +The main "kmem" counter is fed into the main counter, so kmem charges will
> +also be visible from the user counter.
>
> Currently no soft limit is implemented for kernel memory. It is future work
> to trigger slab reclaim when those limits are reached.
>
> 2.7.1 Current Kernel Memory resources accounted
>
> +* stack pages: every process consumes some stack pages. By accounting into
> +kernel memory, we prevent new processes from being created when the kernel
> +memory usage is too high.
> +
> * sockets memory pressure: some sockets protocols have memory pressure
> thresholds. The Memory Controller allows them to be controlled individually
> per cgroup, instead of globally.
>
> * tcp memory pressure: sockets memory pressure for the tcp protocol.
>
> +2.7.3 Common use cases
> +
> +Because the "kmem" counter is fed to the main user counter, kernel memory can
> +never be limited completely independently of user memory. Say "U" is the user
> +limit, and "K" the kernel limit. There are three possible ways limits can be
> +set:
> +
> + U != 0, K = 0:
K is not 0 it is unaccounted (disabled)
> + This is the standard memcg limitation mechanism already present before kmem
> + accounting. Kernel memory is completely ignored.
> +
> + U,K != 0, K < U:
I would keep K < U
> + Kernel memory is effectively set as a percentage of the user memory. This
not a percentage it is subset of the user memory
> + setup is useful in deployments where the total amount of memory per-cgroup
> + is overcommited. Overcommiting kernel memory limits is definitely not
> + recommended, since the box can still run out of non-reclaimable memory.
> + In this case, the admin could set up K so that the sum of all groups is
> + never greater than the total memory, and freely set U at the cost of his
> + QoS.
> +
> + U,K != 0, K >= U:
> + Since kmem charges will also be fed to the user counter, this setup gives
> + the admin a unified view of memory. Reclaim will be triggered for the cgroup
> + for both kinds of memory.
This is also useful for tracking kernel memory allocation.
> +
> 3. User Interface
>
> 0. Configuration
> @@ -290,6 +337,7 @@ a. Enable CONFIG_CGROUPS
> b. Enable CONFIG_RESOURCE_COUNTERS
> c. Enable CONFIG_MEMCG
> d. Enable CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP (to use swap extension)
> +d. Enable CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM (to use kmem extension)
>
> 1. Prepare the cgroups (see cgroups.txt, Why are cgroups needed?)
> # mount -t tmpfs none /sys/fs/cgroup
> @@ -406,6 +454,11 @@ About use_hierarchy, see Section 6.
> Because rmdir() moves all pages to parent, some out-of-use page caches can be
> moved to the parent. If you want to avoid that, force_empty will be useful.
>
> + Also, note that when memory.kmem.limit_in_bytes is set the charges due to
> + kernel pages will still be seen. This is not considered a failure and the
> + write will still return success. In this case, it is expected that
> + memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes == memory.usage_in_bytes.
> +
> About use_hierarchy, see Section 6.
>
> 5.2 stat file
> --
> 1.7.11.4
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-11 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-08 10:06 [PATCH v4 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 3:22 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 10:11 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 12:53 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 13:38 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12 7:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12 8:27 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:04 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 12:42 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 12:56 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12 7:45 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12 8:39 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12 8:44 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12 8:57 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12 9:13 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12 9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 8:00 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-09 15:14 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:35 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-10 9:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-10 11:24 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-10 11:25 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 8:20 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 13:11 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12 7:47 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12 8:41 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 8:41 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12 7:47 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 8:48 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] execute the whole memcg freeing in free_worker Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 14:21 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 14:35 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2012-10-12 7:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12 8:44 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-17 7:29 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
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