From: Hiroshi Doyu <hdoyu@nvidia.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops to control IOVA more precisely
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:58:43 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120919095843.d1db155e0f085f4fcf64ea32@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120918124918.GK2505@amd.com>
Hi Joerg,
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:49:18 +0200
Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 09:55:30AM +0300, Hiroshi Doyu wrote:
> > The following APIs are needed for us to support the legacy Tegra
> > memory manager for devices("NvMap") with *DMA mapping API*.
>
> Maybe I am not understanding the need completly. Can you elaborate on
> why this is needed for legacy Tegra?
Actually not for legacy but it's necessary to replace homebrewed
in-kernel API(not upstreamed) with the standard ones. The homebrewed
in-kernel API has been used for the abvoe nvmap as its backend. The
homebrewed ones are being replaced with the standard ones, IOMMU-API,
DMA-API and dma-buf, mainly for transition purpose. I found that some
missing features in DMA-API for that. I posted since other SoCs may
have the similiar requirements, (1) To specify IOVA address at
allocation, and (2) To have IOVA allocation and mapping separately.
> > New API:
> >
> > ->iova_alloc(): To allocate IOVA area.
> > ->iova_alloc_at(): To allocate IOVA area at specific address.
> > ->iova_free(): To free IOVA area.
> >
> > ->map_page_at(): To map page at specific IOVA.
>
> This sounds like a layering violation. The situation today is as
> follows:
>
> DMA-API : Handle DMA-addresses including an address allocator
> IOMMU-API : Full control over DMA address space, no address
> allocator
>
> So what you want to do add to the DMA-API is already part of the
> IOMMU-API.
>
> Here is my suggestion what you can do instead of extending the DMA-API.
> You can use the IOMMU-API to initialize the device address space with
> any mappings at the IOVAs you need the mappings. In the end you allocate
> another free range in the device address space and use that to satisfy
> DMA-API allocations. Any reason why that could not work?
I guess that it would work. Originally I thought that using DMA-API
and IOMMU-API together in driver might be kind of layering violation
since IOMMU-API itself is used in DMA-API. Only DMA-API used in driver
might be cleaner. Considering that DMA API traditionally handling
*anonymous* {bus,iova} address only, introducing the concept of
specific address in DMA API may not be so encouraged, though.
It would be nice to listen how other SoCs have solved similar needs.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-19 6:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-29 6:55 Hiroshi Doyu
2012-08-29 6:55 ` [RFC 1/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops->iova_get_free_{total,max} functions Hiroshi Doyu
2012-08-29 6:55 ` [RFC 2/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops->iova_{alloc,free}() functions Hiroshi Doyu
2012-08-29 6:55 ` [RFC 3/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops->iova_alloc*_at* function Hiroshi Doyu
2012-08-29 6:55 ` [RFC 4/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops->map_page*_at* function Hiroshi Doyu
2012-08-29 6:55 ` [RFC 5/5] ARM: dma-mapping: Introduce dma_map_linear_attrs() for IOVA linear map Hiroshi Doyu
2012-09-18 12:49 ` [RFC 0/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops to control IOVA more precisely Joerg Roedel
2012-09-19 6:58 ` Hiroshi Doyu [this message]
2012-09-19 7:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-19 11:41 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-09-19 12:50 ` Joerg Roedel
2012-09-20 1:44 ` Krishna Reddy
2012-09-20 2:21 ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-20 6:40 ` Krishna Reddy
2012-09-20 15:27 ` Stephen Warren
2012-09-21 18:16 ` Krishna Reddy
2012-09-24 9:04 ` How to specify IOMMU'able devices in DT (was: [RFC 0/5] ARM: dma-mapping: New dma_map_ops to control IOVA more precisely) Hiroshi Doyu
2012-09-24 9:28 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-24 9:44 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-09-24 11:14 ` Marek Szyprowski
2012-09-24 11:50 ` How to specify IOMMU'able devices in DT Hiroshi Doyu
2012-11-28 13:48 ` [PATCH 1/1] ARM: tegra: bus_notifier registers IOMMU devices(was: How to specify IOMMU'able devices in DT) Hiroshi Doyu
2012-11-28 18:07 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-29 6:45 ` Hiroshi Doyu
2012-11-29 10:17 ` Thierry Reding
2012-11-30 4:59 ` Mark Zhang
2012-11-30 8:06 ` [PATCH 1/1] ARM: tegra: bus_notifier registers IOMMU devices Hiroshi Doyu
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