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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 03/11] mm: shmem: do not try to uncharge known swapcache pages
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:51:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120712135102.GI21013@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1207111118310.1797@eggly.anvils>

On Wed 11-07-12 11:48:54, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 09-07-12 13:37:39, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe I am missing something but who does the uncharge from:
> > > > shmem_unuse
> > > >   mem_cgroup_cache_charge
> > > >   shmem_unuse_inode
> > > >     shmem_add_to_page_cache
> > > 
> > > There isn't any special uncharge for shmem_unuse(): once the swapcache
> > > page is matched up with its memcg, it will get uncharged by one of the
> > > usual routes to swapcache_free() when the page is freed: maybe in the
> > > call from __remove_mapping(), maybe when free_page_and_swap_cache()
> > > ends up calling it.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps you're worrying about error (or unfound) paths in shmem_unuse()?
> > 
> > Yes that was exactly my concern.
> > 
> > > By the time we make the charge, we know for sure that it's a shmem page,
> > > and make the charge appropriately; in racy cases it might get uncharged
> > > again in the delete_from_swap_cache().  Can the unfound case occur these
> > > days?  
> > 
> > I cannot find a change that would prevent from that.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 
> > > I'd have to think more deeply to answer that, but the charge will
> > > not go missing.
> 
> Yes, the unfound case certainly can still occur these days.  It's very
> similar to the race with truncation/eviction which shmem_unuse_inode()
> already allows for (-ENOENT from shmem_add_to_page_cache()).  In that
> "error" case, the swap entry got removed after we found it in the
> file's radix tree, before we get to replace it there.  Whereas in the
> "unfound" case, the swap entry got removed from the file's radix tree
> before we even found it there, so we haven't a clue which file it ever
> belonged to.
> 
> But it doesn't matter.  We have charged the memcg (the original memcg if
> memsw is enabled, or swapoff's own if memsw is disabled), and the charge
> is redundant now that the page has been truncated; but it's a common
> occurrence with swapcache (most common while PageWriteback or PageLocked)
> that the swap and charge cannot be released immediately, and it sorts
> itself out under pressure once the page reaches the bottom of the
> inactive anon and __remove_mapping()'s swapcache_free().
> 
> The worst of it is misleading stats meanwhile; but SwapCache has
> always been tiresome that way (duplicated in memory and on swap).

Indeed

> 
> The crucial change with regard to unfound entries was back in 2.6.33,
> when we added SWAP_MAP_SHMEM: prior to that, we didn't know in advance
> if the swap belonged to shmem or to task, and had to be more careful
> about when we charge.

Thanks a lot for the clarification Hugh! The code is really tricky and
easy to get wrong.

> 
> Hugh

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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Czech Republic

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-12 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-05  0:44 [patch 00/11] mm: memcg: charge/uncharge improvements Johannes Weiner
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 01/11] mm: memcg: fix compaction/migration failing due to memcg limits Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:27   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 14:15   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 02/11] mm: swapfile: clean up unuse_pte race handling Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:29   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 14:22   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 03/11] mm: shmem: do not try to uncharge known swapcache pages Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:33   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 14:46   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-09 20:37     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-10 17:16       ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-11 18:48         ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-12 13:51           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2012-07-09 20:11   ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 04/11] mm: memcg: push down PageSwapCache check into uncharge entry functions Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:42   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09  7:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 15:02   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 05/11] mm: memcg: only check for PageSwapCache when uncharging anon Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:49   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:05   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 06/11] mm: memcg: move swapin charge functions above callsites Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:50   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:10   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:44 ` [patch 07/11] mm: memcg: remove unneeded shmem charge type Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:51   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:17   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:45 ` [patch 08/11] mm: memcg: remove needless !mm fixup to init_mm when charging Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:53   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:20   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-10  6:10     ` Wanpeng Li
2012-07-10  6:21       ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-10  6:54         ` Wanpeng Li
2012-07-10 16:22           ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:45 ` [patch 09/11] mm: memcg: split swapin charge function into private and public part Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  2:55   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:28   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:45 ` [patch 10/11] mm: memcg: only check swap cache pages for repeated charging Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  3:26   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:32   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05  0:45 ` [patch 11/11] mm: memcg: only check anon swapin page charges for swap cache Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09  3:44   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:34   ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-09 15:35 ` [patch 00/11] mm: memcg: charge/uncharge improvements Michal Hocko

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