From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 03/11] mm: shmem: do not try to uncharge known swapcache pages
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:51:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120712135102.GI21013@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1207111118310.1797@eggly.anvils>
On Wed 11-07-12 11:48:54, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 09-07-12 13:37:39, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2012, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I am missing something but who does the uncharge from:
> > > > shmem_unuse
> > > > mem_cgroup_cache_charge
> > > > shmem_unuse_inode
> > > > shmem_add_to_page_cache
> > >
> > > There isn't any special uncharge for shmem_unuse(): once the swapcache
> > > page is matched up with its memcg, it will get uncharged by one of the
> > > usual routes to swapcache_free() when the page is freed: maybe in the
> > > call from __remove_mapping(), maybe when free_page_and_swap_cache()
> > > ends up calling it.
> > >
> > > Perhaps you're worrying about error (or unfound) paths in shmem_unuse()?
> >
> > Yes that was exactly my concern.
> >
> > > By the time we make the charge, we know for sure that it's a shmem page,
> > > and make the charge appropriately; in racy cases it might get uncharged
> > > again in the delete_from_swap_cache(). Can the unfound case occur these
> > > days?
> >
> > I cannot find a change that would prevent from that.
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > > I'd have to think more deeply to answer that, but the charge will
> > > not go missing.
>
> Yes, the unfound case certainly can still occur these days. It's very
> similar to the race with truncation/eviction which shmem_unuse_inode()
> already allows for (-ENOENT from shmem_add_to_page_cache()). In that
> "error" case, the swap entry got removed after we found it in the
> file's radix tree, before we get to replace it there. Whereas in the
> "unfound" case, the swap entry got removed from the file's radix tree
> before we even found it there, so we haven't a clue which file it ever
> belonged to.
>
> But it doesn't matter. We have charged the memcg (the original memcg if
> memsw is enabled, or swapoff's own if memsw is disabled), and the charge
> is redundant now that the page has been truncated; but it's a common
> occurrence with swapcache (most common while PageWriteback or PageLocked)
> that the swap and charge cannot be released immediately, and it sorts
> itself out under pressure once the page reaches the bottom of the
> inactive anon and __remove_mapping()'s swapcache_free().
>
> The worst of it is misleading stats meanwhile; but SwapCache has
> always been tiresome that way (duplicated in memory and on swap).
Indeed
>
> The crucial change with regard to unfound entries was back in 2.6.33,
> when we added SWAP_MAP_SHMEM: prior to that, we didn't know in advance
> if the swap belonged to shmem or to task, and had to be more careful
> about when we charge.
Thanks a lot for the clarification Hugh! The code is really tricky and
easy to get wrong.
>
> Hugh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-12 13:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-05 0:44 [patch 00/11] mm: memcg: charge/uncharge improvements Johannes Weiner
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 01/11] mm: memcg: fix compaction/migration failing due to memcg limits Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:27 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 14:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 02/11] mm: swapfile: clean up unuse_pte race handling Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:29 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 14:22 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 03/11] mm: shmem: do not try to uncharge known swapcache pages Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:33 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 14:46 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-09 20:37 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-10 17:16 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-11 18:48 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-12 13:51 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2012-07-09 20:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 04/11] mm: memcg: push down PageSwapCache check into uncharge entry functions Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:42 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 7:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 15:02 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 05/11] mm: memcg: only check for PageSwapCache when uncharging anon Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:49 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 06/11] mm: memcg: move swapin charge functions above callsites Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:50 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:10 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:44 ` [patch 07/11] mm: memcg: remove unneeded shmem charge type Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:51 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:17 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:45 ` [patch 08/11] mm: memcg: remove needless !mm fixup to init_mm when charging Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:53 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:20 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-10 6:10 ` Wanpeng Li
2012-07-10 6:21 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-10 6:54 ` Wanpeng Li
2012-07-10 16:22 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:45 ` [patch 09/11] mm: memcg: split swapin charge function into private and public part Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 2:55 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:28 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:45 ` [patch 10/11] mm: memcg: only check swap cache pages for repeated charging Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 3:26 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-05 0:45 ` [patch 11/11] mm: memcg: only check anon swapin page charges for swap cache Johannes Weiner
2012-07-09 3:44 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-07-09 15:34 ` Michal Hocko
2012-07-09 15:35 ` [patch 00/11] mm: memcg: charge/uncharge improvements Michal Hocko
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