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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Cc: Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@freebsd.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, glommer@parallels.com,
	penberg@kernel.org, yinghan@google.com, hughd@google.com,
	gthelen@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] memcg: Introduce __GFP_NOACCOUNT.
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:10:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120301091044.1a62d42c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABCjUKBHjLHKUmW6_r0SOyw42WfV0zNO7Kd7FhhRQTT6jZdyeQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:09:50 -0800
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:00 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:58:47 -0800
> > Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >
> >> This is used to indicate that we don't want an allocation to be accounted
> >> to the current cgroup.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
> >
> > I don't like this.
> >
> > Please add
> >
> > ___GFP_ACCOUNT A "account this allocation to memcg"
> >
> > Or make this as slab's flag if this work is for slab allocation.
> 
> We would like to account for all the slab allocations that happen in
> process context.
> 
> Manually marking every single allocation or kmem_cache with a GFP flag
> really doesn't seem like the right thing to do..
> 
> Can you explain why you don't like this flag?
> 

For example, tcp buffer limiting has another logic for buffer size controling.
_AND_, most of kernel pages are not reclaimable at all.
I think you should start from reclaimable caches as dcache, icache etc.

If you want to use this wider, you can discuss

+ #define GFP_KERNEL	(.....| ___GFP_ACCOUNT)

in future. I'd like to see small start because memory allocation failure
is always terrible and make the system unstable. Even if you notify
"Ah, kernel memory allocation failed because of memory.limit? and
 many unreclaimable memory usage. Please tweak the limitation or kill tasks!!"

The user can't do anything because he can't create any new task because of OOM.

The system will be being unstable until an admin, who is not under any limit,
tweaks something or reboot the system.

Please do small start until you provide Eco-System to avoid a case that
the admin cannot login and what he can do was only reboot.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-01  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-27 22:58 [PATCH 00/10] memcg: Kernel Memory Accounting Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 01/10] memcg: Kernel memory accounting infrastructure Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:10   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29  0:37     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:11   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 02/10] memcg: Uncharge all kmem when deleting a cgroup Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 19:00   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29  0:24     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 16:51       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29  6:22   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-29 19:00     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 03/10] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29  6:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 04/10] memcg: Introduce __GFP_NOACCOUNT Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29  6:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-29 16:53     ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:09     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-01  0:10       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2012-03-01  0:24         ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-01  6:05           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-03-03 14:22             ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-03 16:38               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-03 23:24                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-04  0:10                   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-06 10:36                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-03-06 16:13                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-03-06 18:31                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 05/10] memcg: Slab accounting Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:24   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 23:31     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 17:00       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 06/10] memcg: Track all the memcg children of a kmem_cache Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 07/10] memcg: Stop res_counter underflows Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:31   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 23:07     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 17:05       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:17         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 08/10] memcg: Add CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_KMEM_ACCT_ROOT Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:34   ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 23:36     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 23:54       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-29 17:09       ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:24         ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 09/10] memcg: Per-memcg memory.kmem.slabinfo file Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 22:58 ` [PATCH 10/10] memcg: Document kernel memory accounting Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-27 23:05   ` Randy Dunlap
2012-02-28  8:49 ` [PATCH 00/10] memcg: Kernel Memory Accounting Pekka Enberg
2012-02-28 22:12   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-28 13:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-28 22:47   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-02-29 16:47     ` Glauber Costa
2012-02-29 19:28       ` Suleiman Souhlal

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