From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
"hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk" <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
"bsingharora@gmail.com" <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 2/7 v2] memcg: add memory barrier for checking account move.
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:37:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120118123759.GB31112@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120118090656.83268b3e.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed 18-01-12 09:06:56, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:26:35 +0100
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> > On Fri 13-01-12 17:33:47, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > > I think this bugfix is needed before going ahead. thoughts?
> > > ==
> > > From 2cb491a41782b39aae9f6fe7255b9159ac6c1563 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:27:20 +0900
> > > Subject: [PATCH 2/7] memcg: add memory barrier for checking account move.
> > >
> > > At starting move_account(), source memcg's per-cpu variable
> > > MEM_CGROUP_ON_MOVE is set. The page status update
> > > routine check it under rcu_read_lock(). But there is no memory
> > > barrier. This patch adds one.
> >
> > OK this would help to enforce that the CPU would see the current value
> > but what prevents us from the race with the value update without the
> > lock? This is as racy as it was before AFAICS.
> >
>
> Hm, do I misunderstand ?
> ==
> update reference
>
> CPU A CPU B
> set value rcu_read_lock()
> smp_wmb() smp_rmb()
> read_value
> rcu_read_unlock()
> synchronize_rcu().
> ==
> I expect
> If synchronize_rcu() is called before rcu_read_lock() => move_lock_xxx will be held.
> If synchronize_rcu() is called after rcu_read_lock() => update will be delayed.
Ahh, OK I can see it now. Readers are not that important because it is
actually the updater who is delayed until all preexisting rcu read
sections are finished.
In that case. Why do we need both barriers? spin_unlock is a full
barrier so maybe we just need smp_rmb before we read value to make sure
that we do not get stalled value when we start rcu_read section after
synchronize_rcu?
> Here, cpu B needs to read most recently updated value.
If it reads the old value then it would think that we are not moving and
so we would account to the old group and move it later on, right?
>
> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-18 12:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-13 8:30 [RFC] [PATCH 0/7 v2] memcg: page_cgroup diet KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-13 8:32 ` [RFC] [PATCH 1/7 v2] memcg: remove unnecessary check in mem_cgroup_update_page_stat() KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-17 15:16 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-17 23:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-18 13:01 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-19 2:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-19 20:07 ` Ying Han
2012-01-20 0:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-13 8:33 ` [RFC] [PATCH 2/7 v2] memcg: add memory barrier for checking account move KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-17 15:26 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-18 0:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-18 12:37 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2012-01-19 2:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-19 9:28 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-19 23:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-20 18:08 ` Ying Han
2012-01-23 9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-24 3:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24 8:49 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-24 19:04 ` Ying Han
2012-01-25 11:07 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-13 8:40 ` [RFC] [PATCH 3/7 v2] memcg: remove PCG_MOVE_LOCK flag from pc->flags KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-16 12:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2012-01-17 0:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-17 16:46 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-18 0:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-18 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-18 23:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-23 22:05 ` Ying Han
2012-01-24 4:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-24 8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-25 23:07 ` Ying Han
2012-01-26 9:16 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-23 22:02 ` Ying Han
2012-01-24 4:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-25 22:48 ` Ying Han
2012-01-13 8:41 ` [RFC] [PATCH 4/7 v2] memcg: new scheme to update per-memcg page stat accounting KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-18 16:45 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-18 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-26 19:01 ` Ying Han
2012-01-13 8:42 ` [RFC] [PATCH 5/7 v2] memcg: remove PCG_FILE_MAPPED KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-19 14:07 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-26 19:10 ` Ying Han
2012-01-13 8:43 ` [RFC] [PATCH 6/7 v2] memcg: remove PCG_CACHE KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-13 8:45 ` [RFC] [PATCH 7/7 v2] memcg: make mem_cgroup_begin_update_stat to use global pcpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-19 14:47 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-20 2:19 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-20 8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2012-01-20 8:40 ` Greg Thelen
2012-01-24 3:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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