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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Semwal, Sumit" <sumit.semwal@ti.com>
Cc: Rob Clark <rob@ti.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	t.stanislaws@samsung.com, linux@arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	m.szyprowski@samsung.com, Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma buffer sharing mechanism
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:40:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201112071340.35267.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB2ybb-0mTdNXN82O1TUGVjhMZUQtQb07A3EVmmdxg3ngEc3Dw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday 07 December 2011, Semwal, Sumit wrote:
> Thanks for the excellent discussion - it indeed is very good learning
> for the relatively-inexperienced me :)
> 
> So, for the purpose of dma-buf framework, could I summarize the
> following and rework accordingly?:
> 1. remove mmap() dma_buf_op [and mmap fop], and introduce cpu_start(),
> cpu_finish() ops to bracket cpu accesses to the buffer. Also add
> DMABUF_CPU_START / DMABUF_CPU_FINI IOCTLs?

I think we'd be better off for now without the extra ioctls and
just document that a shared buffer must not be exported to user
space using mmap at all, to avoid those problems. Serialization
between GPU and CPU is on a higher level than the dma_buf framework
IMHO.

> 2. remove sg_sync* ops for now (and we'll see if we need to add them
> later if needed)

Just removing the sg_sync_* operations is not enough. We have to make
the decision whether we want to allow
a) only coherent mappings of the buffer into kernel memory (requiring
an extension to the dma_map_ops on ARM to not flush caches at map/unmap
time)
b) not allowing any in-kernel mappings (same requirement on ARM, also
limits the usefulness of the dma_buf if we cannot access it from the
kernel or from user space)
c) only allowing streaming mappings, even if those are non-coherent
(requiring strict serialization between CPU (in-kernel) and dma users of
the buffer)

This issue has to be solved or we get random data corruption.

	Arnd

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-07 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-02  8:57 [RFC v2 0/2] Introduce DMA " Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02  8:57 ` [RFC v2 1/2] dma-buf: Introduce dma " Sumit Semwal
2011-12-02 17:11   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-12-05  9:48     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-05 17:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 18:55     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 19:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 20:58         ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 20:46     ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 21:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-05 22:11         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:33           ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-06 13:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-06 15:28             ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-07 13:27           ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 13:40             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-12-08 21:44               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2011-12-09 14:13                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 14:24                   ` Alan Cox
2011-12-10  4:01                     ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-12 16:48                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-19  6:16                         ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-20 15:41                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20 16:41                             ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20 17:14                               ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-21 17:27                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-21 19:04                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2011-12-23 10:00                                   ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-23 17:10                                     ` Rob Clark
2011-12-20  9:03                   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 15:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-01 20:53                       ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-01 23:12                         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-13 13:33                 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-12-05 22:09       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-05 22:15         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-05 22:35         ` Rob Clark
2011-12-07  6:35     ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 10:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-07 11:02         ` Semwal, Sumit
2011-12-07 11:34           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-09 22:50     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Robert Morell
2011-12-10 11:13       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-12 22:44         ` Robert Morell
2011-12-13 15:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-20  2:05             ` Robert Morell
2011-12-20 14:29               ` Anca Emanuel
2012-01-09  6:20   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09  8:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09  8:11       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Dave Airlie
2012-01-09 10:10       ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 10:27         ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 12:06           ` InKi Dae
2012-01-09 16:02             ` Daniel Vetter
2012-01-09 15:17         ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  1:34           ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  2:14             ` Rob Clark
2012-01-10  6:09               ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-10  7:28                 ` InKi Dae
2012-01-10  9:19                   ` InKi Dae
2012-01-11  1:08               ` InKi Dae
2011-12-02  8:57 ` [RFC v2 2/2] dma-buf: Documentation for buffer sharing framework Sumit Semwal

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