From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memcg: remove PCG_ACCT_LRU.
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:48:00 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111207104800.d1851f78.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1112061506360.2111@sister.anvils>
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:50:33 -0800 (PST)
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:36:34 -0800 (PST)
> > Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm, at first glance at the patch, it seems far complicated than
> > I expected
>
> Right, this is just a rollup of assorted changes,
> yet to be presented properly as an understandable series.
>
> > and added much checks and hooks to lru path...
>
> Actually, I think it removes more than it adds; while trying not
> to increase the overhead of lookup_page_cgroup()s and locking.
>
> > > Okay, here it is: my usual mix of cleanup and functional changes.
> > > There's work by Ying and others in here - will apportion authorship
> > > more fairly when splitting. If you're looking through it at all,
> > > the place to start would be memcontrol.c's lock_page_lru_irqsave().
> > >
> >
> > Thank you. This seems inetersting patch. Hmm...what I think of now is..
> > In most case, pages are newly allocated and charged ,and then, added to LRU.
> > pc->mem_cgroup never changes while pages are on LRU.
> >
> > I have a fix for corner cases as to do
> >
> > 1. lock lru
> > 2. remove-page-from-lru
> > 3. overwrite pc->mem_cgroup
> > 4. add page to lru again
> > 5. unlock lru
>
> That is indeed the sequence which __mem_cgroup_commit_charge() follows
> after the patch.
>
> But it optimizes out the majority of cases when no such lru operations
> are needed (optimizations best presented in a separate patch), while
> being careful about the tricky case when the page is on lru_add_pvecs,
> and may get on to an lru at any moment.
>
> And since it uses a separate lock for each memcg-zone's set of lrus,
> must take care that both lock and lru in 4 and 5 are different from
> those in 1 and 2.
>
yes, after per-zone-per-memcg lock, Above sequence should take some care.
With naive solution,
1. get lruvec-1 from target pc->mem_cgroup
2. get lruvec-2 from target memcg to be charged.
3. lock lruvec-x lock
4. lock lruvec-y lock (x and y order is determined by css_id ?)
5. remove from LRU.
6. overwrite pc->mem_cgroup
7. add page to lru again
8. unlock lruvec-y
9. unlokc lruvec-x
Hm, maybe there are another clever way..
> >
> > And blindly believe pc->mem_cgroup regardless of PCG_USED bit at LRU handling.
>
> That's right. The difficulty comes when Used is cleared while
> the page is off lru, or page removed from lru while Used is clear:
> once lock is dropped, we have no hold on the memcg, and must move
> to root lru lest the old memcg get deleted.
>
> The old Used + AcctLRU + pc->mem_cgroup puppetry used to achieve that
> quite cleverly; but in distributing zone lru_locks over memcgs, we went
> through a lot of crashes before we understood the subtlety of it; and
> in most places were just fighting the way it shifted underneath us.
>
> Now mem_cgroup_move_uncharged_to_root() makes the move explicit,
> in just a few places.
>
> >
> > Hm, per-zone-per-memcg lru locking is much easier if
> > - we igonore PCG_USED bit at lru handling
>
> I may or may not agree with you, depending on what you mean!
>
Ah, after my patch,
mem_cgroup_lru_add(zone, page) {
pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
memcg = pc->mem_cgroup;
lruvec = lruvec(memcg, zone)
update zone stat for memcg
}
Then, no flag check at handling lru.
> > - we never overwrite pc->mem_cgroup if the page is on LRU.
>
> That's not the way I was thinking of it, but I think that's what we're doing.
>
I do this by a new rule
"If page may be on LRU at commit_charge, lru_lock should be held and PageLRU
must be cleared."
> > - if page may be added to LRU by pagevec etc.. while we overwrite
> > pc->mem_cgroup, we always take lru_lock. This is our corner case.
>
> Yes, the tricky case I mention above.
>
> >
> > isn't it ? I posted a series of patch. I'm glad if you give me a
> > quick review.
>
> I haven't glanced yet, will do so after an hour or two.
>
I think Johannes's chages of removing page_cgroup->lru allows us
various chances of optimization/simplification.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-07 1:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-02 10:06 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-02 12:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-12-05 0:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-06 0:13 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-06 0:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-06 7:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-06 10:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-06 23:50 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-07 1:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-12-07 6:30 ` Hugh Dickins
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