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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	ngupta@vflare.org, levinsasha928@gmail.com,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	JBeulich@novell.com, Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Neo Jia <cyclonusj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] mm: frontswap (for 3.2 window)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 13:19:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111104131932.ccafb402.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <785a9dc0-2f15-40bf-b9a8-e3ab28e650bd@default>

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:12:01 -0700 (PDT)
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com> wrote:

> > > Kame, can I add you to the list of people who support
> > > merging frontswap, assuming more good performance numbers
> > > are posted?
> 
> So I'm not asking you if Fujitsu enterprise QoS-guarantee
> customers will use zcache.... Andrew said yesterday:
> 
> "At kernel summit there was discussion and overall agreement
>  that we've been paying insufficient attention to the
>  big-picture "should we include this feature at all" issues.
>  We resolved to look more intensely and critically at new
>  features with a view to deciding whether their usefulness
>  justified their maintenance burden."
> 
> I am asking you, who are an open source Linux developer and
> a respected -mm developer, do you think the usefulness
> of frontswap justifies the maintenance burden, and frontswap
> should be merged?
> 

When you convince other guys that the design is good.
At reading the whole threads, it seems other deveoppers raise
2 problems.
  1. justification of usage
  2. API design.

For 1, you'll need to show performance and benefits. I think
you tried and you'll do, again. But please take care of "2", it
seems some guys (Rik and Andrea) has concerns. 

Please CC me, I'd like to join code review process, at least.
I'd like to think of a new usage for frontswap/cleancache benficial
for enterprise users.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-04  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-27 18:52 Dan Magenheimer
     [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110271318220.7639@chino.kir.corp.google.com20111027211157.GA1199@infradead.org>
2011-10-27 19:30 ` Kurt Hackel
2011-10-27 20:18 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-27 21:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-27 21:49     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 21:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-27 22:21         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28  7:12         ` Sasha Levin
     [not found]           ` <CAOzbF4fnD=CGR-nizZoBxmFSuAjFC3uAHf3wDj5RLneJvJhrOQ@mail.gmail.comCAOJsxLGOTw7rtFnqeHvzFxifA0QgPVDHZzrEo=-uB2Gkrvp=JQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <552d2067-474d-4aef-a9a4-89e5fd8ef84f@default20111031181651.GF3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]               ` <60592afd-97aa-4eaf-b86b-f6695d31c7f1@default20111031223717.GI3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]                 ` <1b2e4f74-7058-4712-85a7-84198723e3ee@default20111101012017.GJ3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <6a9db6d9-6f13-4855-b026-ba668c29ddfa@default20111101180702.GL3466@redhat.com>
     [not found]                     ` <b8a0ca71-a31b-488a-9a92-2502d4a6e9bf@default20111102013122.GA18879@redhat.com>
2011-10-28  7:30           ` Cyclonus J
2011-10-28 14:26             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 15:21               ` Dan Magenheimer
     [not found]                 ` <CAOJsxLEE-qf9me1SAZLFiEVhHVnDh7BDrSx1+abe9R4mfkhD=g@mail.gmail.com20111028163053.GC1319@redhat.com>
2011-10-28 15:36                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 16:30                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-28 17:01                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 17:07                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 18:28                       ` John Stoffel
2011-10-28 20:19                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 20:52                           ` John Stoffel
2011-10-30 19:18                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-30 20:06                               ` Dave Hansen
2011-10-30 21:50                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 19:45                                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 20:45                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-06 22:32                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-11-08 12:15                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-10-31  8:12                           ` James Bottomley
2011-10-31 15:39                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 10:13                               ` James Bottomley
2011-11-01 18:10                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 18:48                                   ` Dave Hansen
2011-11-01 21:32                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  7:44                                   ` James Bottomley
2011-11-02 19:39                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 18:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-30 21:47                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-30 23:19                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 18:34                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 21:45                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 16:37                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-28 16:59                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-28 17:20                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 18:16                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 20:58                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-31 22:37                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-10-31 23:36                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01  1:20                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 16:41                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 18:07                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-01 21:00                               ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  1:31                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-02 19:06                                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-03  0:32                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-03 22:29                                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:51                         ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 21:14                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-15 16:29                             ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-15 17:33                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2011-11-16 14:49                                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2011-11-01 10:16                   ` James Bottomley
2011-11-01 18:21                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  8:14                       ` James Bottomley
2011-11-02 20:08                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-03 10:30                           ` Theodore Tso
2011-11-03 14:59                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 15:44                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 16:02                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-11-02 16:13                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-02 20:27                           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 20:19                       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-10-27 21:44 ` Avi Miller
2011-10-27 22:33 ` Brian King
2011-10-28  5:17 ` Nitin Gupta
2011-10-29 13:43 ` Ed Tomlinson
2011-10-31  8:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-31 16:38   ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01  0:50     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-01 15:25       ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-01 21:43         ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-01 22:25           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02 21:03           ` Rik van Riel
2011-11-02 21:42             ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-02  1:14         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-02 15:12           ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-11-04  4:19             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-11-03 16:49 ` Jan Beulich
2011-11-04  0:54   ` Andrew Morton
2011-11-04  8:49     ` Jan Beulich

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