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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Michael Wolf <mjwolf@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] kstaled: rate limit pages scanned per second.
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:54:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111014135404.b56bed48.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANN689HOALiiBKLUHRFuONQEyqp2on0GA1ycEguf0S6WFeuP7w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:25:06 -0700
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:59 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:19:50 -0700
> > Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com> wrote:
> >> It tends to perform worse if we try making it multithreaded. What
> >> happens is that the scanning threads call page_referenced() a lot, and
> >> if they both try scanning pages that belong to the same file that
> >> causes the mapping's i_mmap_mutex lock to bounce. Same things happens
> >> if they try scanning pages that belong to the same anon VMA too.
> >>
> >
> > Hmm. with brief thinking, if you can scan list of page tables,
> > you can set young flags without any locks.
> > For inode pages, you can hook page lookup, I think.
> 
> It would be possible to avoid taking rmap locks by instead scanning
> all page tables, and transferring the pte young bits observed there to
> the PageYoung page flag. This is a significant design change, but
> would indeed work.
> 
> Just to clarify the idea, how would you go about finding all page
> tables to scan ? The most straightforward approach would be iterate
> over all processes and scan their address spaces, but I don't think we
> can afford to hold tasklist_lock (even for reads) for so long, so we'd
> have to be a bit smarter than that... I can think of a few different
> ways but I'd like to know if you have something specific in mind
> first.

Maybe there are several idea. 

1. how about chasing "pgd" kmem_cache ?
   I'm not sure but in x86 it seems all pgds are lined to pgd_list.
   Now, it's not RCU list but making it as RCU list isn't hard.
   Note: IIUC, struct page for pgd contains pointer to mm_struct.

2. track dup_mm and do_exec.
   insert hook and maintain list of mm_struct.(It's not needed to be
   implemented as list)

3. Like pgd_list, add some flag to pgd pages. Then, you can scan memmap
   and find 'pgd' page and walk into the page table tree.

Hmm ?

Thanks,
-Kame



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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-14  4:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-28  0:48 [PATCH 0/9] V2: idle page tracking / working set estimation Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  0:48 ` [PATCH 1/9] page_referenced: replace vm_flags parameter with struct page_referenced_info Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  6:28   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 2/9] kstaled: documentation and config option Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  6:53   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28 23:48     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-29  5:40       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 3/9] kstaled: page_referenced_kstaled() and supporting infrastructure Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  7:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-29  0:09     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 4/9] kstaled: minimalistic implementation Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  7:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-28  8:01     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28 10:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-28  8:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-02-20  9:17   ` Zhu Yanhai
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 5/9] kstaled: skip non-RAM regions Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  8:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 6/9] kstaled: rate limit pages scanned per second Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  8:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28  8:19     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  8:59       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-14  1:25         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-10-14  4:54           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 7/9] kstaled: add histogram sampling functionality Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  8:22   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 8/9] kstaled: add incrementally updating stale page count Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-28  0:49 ` [PATCH 9/9] kstaled: export PG_stale in /proc/kpageflags Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-29 16:43 ` [PATCH 0/9] V2: idle page tracking / working set estimation Eric B Munson
2011-09-29 20:25   ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-29 21:18     ` Eric B Munson
2011-09-30 18:19       ` Eric B Munson
2011-09-30 21:16         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-09-30 21:40           ` Eric B Munson
2011-10-03 15:06           ` Eric B Munson

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