From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: "kautuk.c @samsung.com" <consul.kautuk@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm/backing-dev.c: Call del_timer_sync instead of del_timer
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:05:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110905160534.GB17354@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFPAmTR5f_GW_oha07Bf0_LNXhigZri_w2N_XTEqM+X+-Ae-Rw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi,
On Mon 05-09-11 20:06:04, kautuk.c @samsung.com wrote:
> > OK, I don't care much whether we have there del_timer() or
> > del_timer_sync(). Let me just say that the race you are afraid of is
> > probably not going to happen in practice so I'm not sure it's valid to be
> > afraid of CPU cycles being burned needlessly. The timer is armed when an
> > dirty inode is first attached to default bdi's dirty list. Then the default
> > bdi flusher thread would have to be woken up so that following happens:
> > CPU1 CPU2
> > timer fires -> wakeup_timer_fn()
> > bdi_forker_thread()
> > del_timer(&me->wakeup_timer);
> > wb_do_writeback(me, 0);
> > ...
> > set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> > wake_up_process(default_backing_dev_info.wb.task);
> >
> > Especially wb_do_writeback() is going to take a long time so just that
> > single thing makes the race unlikely. Given del_timer_sync() is slightly
> > more costly than del_timer() even for unarmed timer, it is questionable
> > whether (chance race happens * CPU spent in extra loop) > (extra CPU spent
> > in del_timer_sync() * frequency that code is executed in
> > bdi_forker_thread())...
> >
>
> Ok, so this means that we can compare the following 2 paths of code:
> i) One extra iteration of the bdi_forker_thread loop, versus
> ii) The amount of time it takes for the del_timer_sync to wait till the
> timer_fn on the other CPU finishes executing + schedule resulting in a
> guaranteed sleep.
No, ii) is going to be as rare. But instead you should compare i) against:
iii) The amount of time it takes del_timer_sync() to check whether the
timer_fn is running on a different CPU (which is work del_timer() doesn't
do).
We are going to spend time in iii) each and every time
if (wb_has_dirty_io(me) || !list_empty(&me->bdi->work_list))
evaluates to true.
Now frequency of i) and iii) happening is hard to evaluate so it's not
clear what's going to be better. Certainly I don't think such evaluation is
worth my time...
Honza
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-05 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-01 15:57 Kautuk Consul
2011-09-01 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02 5:17 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-02 11:21 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-02 11:44 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-02 12:02 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-02 15:14 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-05 5:49 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-05 10:39 ` Jan Kara
2011-09-05 14:36 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-05 16:05 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2011-09-06 4:11 ` kautuk.c @samsung.com
2011-09-06 9:14 ` Jan Kara
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