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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:14:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110830151449.GA28136@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALWz4ixH-7c-fEUAHiyf83KyO9SsRzdUm-u+wm2_Ty=xvU_NyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:07:07AM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 01:36:48PM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:22:02AM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
> >> > > > @@ -888,19 +888,21 @@ void mem_cgroup_del_lru_list(struct page *page,
> >> > > > enum lru_list lru)
> >> > > >  {
> >> > > >  >------struct page_cgroup *pc;
> >> > > >  >------struct mem_cgroup_per_zone *mz;
> >> > > > +>------struct mem_cgroup *mem;
> >> > > > .
> >> > > >  >------if (mem_cgroup_disabled())
> >> > > >  >------>-------return;
> >> > > >  >------pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
> >> > > > ->------/* can happen while we handle swapcache. */
> >> > > > ->------if (!TestClearPageCgroupAcctLRU(pc))
> >> > > > ->------>-------return;
> >> > > > ->------VM_BUG_ON(!pc->mem_cgroup);
> >> > > > ->------/*
> >> > > > ->------ * We don't check PCG_USED bit. It's cleared when the "page" is
> >> > finally
> >> > > > ->------ * removed from global LRU.
> >> > > > ->------ */
> >> > > > ->------mz = page_cgroup_zoneinfo(pc->mem_cgroup, page);
> >> > > > +
> >> > > > +>------if (TestClearPageCgroupAcctLRU(pc) || PageCgroupUsed(pc)) {
> >> >
> >> > This PageCgroupUsed part confuses me.  A page that is being isolated
> >> > shortly after being charged while on the LRU may reach here, and then
> >> > it is unaccounted from pc->mem_cgroup, which it never was accounted
> >> > to.
> >> >
> >> > Could you explain why you added it?
> >>
> >> To be honest, i don't have very good reason for that. The PageCgroupUsed
> >> check is put there after running some tests and some fixes seems help the
> >> test, including this one.
> >>
> >> The one case I can think of for page !AcctLRU | Used is in the pagevec.
> >> However, we shouldn't get to the mem_cgroup_del_lru_list() for a page in
> >> pagevec at the first place.
> >>
> >> I now made it so that PageCgroupAcctLRU on the LRU means accounted
> >> to pc->mem_cgroup,
> >>
> >> this is the same logic currently.
> >>
> >> > and !PageCgroupAcctLRU on the LRU means accounted to
> >> > and babysitted by root_mem_cgroup.
> >>
> >> this seems to be different from what it is now, especially for swapcache
> >> page. So, the page here is linked to root cgroup LRU or not?
> >>
> >> Anyway, the AcctLRU flags still seems confusing to me:
> >>
> >> what this flag tells me is that whether or not the page is on a PRIVATE lru
> >> and being accounted, i used private here to differentiate from the per zone
> >> lru, where it also has PageLRU flag.  The two flags are separate since pages
> >> could be on one lru not the other ( I guess ) , but this is changed after
> >> having the root cgroup lru back. For example, AcctLRU is used to keep track
> >> of the accounted lru pages, especially for root ( we didn't account the
> >> !Used pages to root like readahead swapcache). Now we account the full size
> >> of lru list of root including Used and !Used, but only mark the Used pages
> >> w/ AcctLRU flag.
> >>
> >> So in general, i am wondering we should be able to replace that eventually
> >> with existing Used and LRU bit.  Sorry this seems to be something we like to
> >> consider later, not necessarily now :)
> >
> > I have now the following comment in mem_cgroup_lru_del_list():
> >
> >        /*
> >         * root_mem_cgroup babysits uncharged LRU pages, but
> >         * PageCgroupUsed is cleared when the page is about to get
> >         * freed.  PageCgroupAcctLRU remembers whether the
> >         * LRU-accounting happened against pc->mem_cgroup or
> >         * root_mem_cgroup.
> >         */
> >
> > Does that answer your question?  If not, please tell me, so I can fix
> > the comment :-)
> 
> Sorry, not clear to me yet :(
> 
> Is this saying that we can not differentiate the page linked to root
> but not charged vs
> page linked to memcg which is about to be freed.
> 
> If that is the case, isn't the page being removed from lru first
> before doing uncharge (ClearPageCgroupUsed) ?

It depends.  From the reclaim path, yes.  But it may be freed through
__page_cache_release() for example, which unlinks after uncharge.

So when we reach mem_cgroup_lru_del(), PageCgroupUsed could be cleared
with the page being lru-accounted to root_mem_cgroup (swap readahead,
swapoff) or cleared with the page being lru-accounted to a different
memcg (truncate/invalidate, unmap)

> >> > Always.  Which also means that before_commit now ensures an LRU
> >> > page is moved to root_mem_cgroup for babysitting during the
> >> > charge, so that concurrent isolations/putbacks are always
> >> > accounted correctly.  Is this what you had in mind?  Did I miss
> >> > something?
> >>
> >> In my tree, the before->commit->after protocol is folded into one function.
> >> I didn't post it since I know you also have patch doing that.  So guess I
> >> don't understand why we need to move the page to root while it is gonna be
> >> charged to a memcg by commit_charge shortly after.
> >
> > It is a consequence of your fix that LRU-accounts unused pages to
> > root_mem_cgroup upon lru-add, and thus deaccounts !PageCgroupAcctLRU
> > from root_mem_cgroup unconditionally upon lru-del.
> >
> > Consider the following scenario:
> >
> >        1. page with multiple mappings swapped out.
> >
> >        2. one memcg faults the page, then unmaps it.  The page is
> >        uncharged, but swap-freeing fails due to the other ptes, and
> >        the page stays lru-accounted on the memcg it's no longer
> >        charged to.
> 
> I agree that a page could be ending up on a memcg-lru (AcctLRU) but
> not charged (!Used). But not sure
> if the case above is true or not, since we don't uncharge a page which
> marked as SwapCache until the
> page is removed from the swapcache.

Blergh, you are right.  I missed the PageSwapCache() check in
__mem_cgroup_uncharge_common().  That looks pretty misplaced up there,
btw, I see whether it can be moved.

> One case which we might change the owner of a page while it is linked
> on lru is calling reuse_swap_page() under write fault, so the page is
> uncharged after removing from
> swapcache while linked in the old memcg lru. It will be adjust by
> commit_charge_swapin() later.

Yes, this scenario has this window where PageCgroupAcctLRU is cleared
in before_commit and reclaim could race and isolate the page,
unaccounting it from root_mem_cgroup which it was never charged to.

> >        3. another memcg faults the page.  before_commit must
> >        lru-unaccount from pc->mem_cgroup before pc->mem_cgroup is
> >        overwritten.
> >
> >        4. the page is charged.  after_commit does the fixup.
> >
> > Between 3. and 4., a reclaimer can isolate the page.  The old
> > lru-accounting is undone and mem_cgroup_lru_del() does this:
> >
> >        if (TestClearPageCgroupAcctLRU(pc)) {
> >                VM_BUG_ON(!pc->mem_cgroup);
> >                mem = pc->mem_cgroup;
> >        } else
> >                mem = root_mem_cgroup;
> >       mz = page_cgroup_zoneinfo(mem, page);
> >        /* huge page split is done under lru_lock. so, we have no races. */
> >        MEM_CGROUP_ZSTAT(mz, lru) -= 1 << compound_order(page);
> >
> > The rule is that !PageCgroupAcctLRU means that the page is
> > lru-accounted to root_mem_cgroup.  So when charging, the page has to
> > be moved to root_mem_cgroup until a new memcg is responsible for it.
> 
> So here we are saying that isolating a page which has be
> mem_cgroup_lru_del().  Isn't the later one does lru-unaccount and also
> list_del(), so is that possible to isolate a page not on lru. Or is
> this caused by not clearing the LRU bit in before_commit?

mem_cgroup_lru_del() does not do list_del() anymore.  It's just about
accounting and, in the add case, returning the proper lruvec.

Calling it on a page not on the LRU is a bug.

> >> My understanding is that in before_commit, we uncharge the page from
> >> previous memcg lru if AcctLRU was set, then in the commit_charge we update
> >> the new owner of it. And in after_commit we update the memcg lru for the new
> >> owner after linking the page in the lru.
> >
> > Exactly, just that between unaccounting from the old and accounting to
> > the new, someone else may look at the page and has to find it in a
> > sensible state.
> 
> Wonder if clearing the PageLRU after before_commit is helpful here.

How would after_commit detect whether the page needs relinking or not?

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-30 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01  6:25 [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 1/8] memcg: remove unused retry signal from reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:59   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 16:14       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:29         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 14:01           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  9:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-09 16:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 13:12   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-09 13:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 15:48   ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 17:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 23:41       ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 23:47         ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-10  0:34           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:48             ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11 20:39   ` Ying Han
2011-08-11 21:09     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:15       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:22         ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:57           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  6:08             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 19:04           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 20:36             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 21:05               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  7:07                 ` Ying Han
2011-08-30 15:14                   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-08-31 22:58                     ` Ying Han
2011-09-21  8:44                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  8:07         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 3/8] memcg: reclaim statistics Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 4/8] memcg: rework soft limit reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  5:37   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 21:55   ` Ying Han
2011-06-03  5:25     ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 15:00       ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10  7:36         ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:57           ` Ying Han
2011-06-16  0:33             ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:45             ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:48         ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:41           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 5/8] memcg: remove unused soft limit code Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 6/8] vmscan: change zone_nr_lru_pages to take memcg instead of scan control Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:30   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:29   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 7/8] vmscan: memcg-aware unevictable page rescue scanner Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:27   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:27     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 21:02     ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 22:01       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 22:19         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 23:15           ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-03  5:08           ` Ying Han
2011-06-13  9:42   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 11:18       ` Michal Hocko
2011-07-19 22:47   ` Ying Han
2011-07-20  0:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:28       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:59         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 8/8] mm: make per-memcg lru lists exclusive Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:16   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:24     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:54       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08 15:04           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  8:54     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 20:33   ` Ying Han
2011-08-12  8:34     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08       ` Ying Han
2011-08-12 19:17         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-15  3:01           ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  1:34       ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  9:39         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 23:52 ` [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02  0:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-06-09  1:13     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-02  4:05   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:50     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:51       ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 17:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08  3:45           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08  3:53           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08 15:32             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  3:52               ` Ying Han
2011-06-09  8:35                 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 17:36                   ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 18:36                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 21:38                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 22:30                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:31                         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:17                           ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:33   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  9:06     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 10:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 12:59         ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-09  1:15           ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-09  8:43             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-13  9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:35   ` Johannes Weiner

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