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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	Ankita Garg <ankita@in.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] ARM: DMA: steal memory for DMA coherent mappings
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:26:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201108161626.26130.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110816135516.GC17310@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Tuesday 16 August 2011, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 03:28:48PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > Hmm, I don't remember the point about dynamically sizing the pool for
> > ARMv6K, but that can well be an oversight on my part.  I do remember the
> > part about taking that memory pool from the CMA region as you say.
> 
> If you're setting aside a pool of pages, then you have to dynamically
> size it.  I did mention during our discussion about this.
> 
> The problem is that a pool of fixed size is two fold: you need it to be
> sufficiently large that it can satisfy all allocations which come along
> in atomic context.  Yet, we don't want the pool to be too large because
> then it prevents the memory being used for other purposes.
> 
> Basically, the total number of pages in the pool can be a fixed size,
> but as they are depleted through allocation, they need to be
> re-populated from CMA to re-build the reserve for future atomic
> allocations.  If the pool becomes larger via frees, then obviously
> we need to give pages back.

Ok, thanks for the reminder. I must have completely missed this part
of the discussion.

When I briefly considered this problem, my own conclusion was that
the number of atomic DMA allocations would always be very low
because they tend to be short-lived (e.g. incoming network packets),
so we could ignore this problem and just use a smaller reservation
size. While this seems to be true in general (see "git grep -w -A3 
dma_alloc_coherent | grep ATOMIC"), there is one very significant
case that we cannot ignore, which is pci_alloc_consistent.

This function is still called by hundreds of PCI drivers and always
does dma_alloc_coherent(..., GFP_ATOMIC), even for long-lived
allocations and those that are too large to be ignored.

So at least for the case where we have PCI devices, I agree that
we need to have the dynamic pool.

	Arnd

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-16 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-12 10:58 [PATCHv14 0/9] Contiguous Memory Allocator Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm: move some functions from memory_hotplug.c to page_isolation.c Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: alloc_contig_freed_pages() added Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: alloc_contig_range() added Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: MIGRATE_CMA migration type added Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: MIGRATE_CMA isolation functions added Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 6/9] drivers: add Contiguous Memory Allocator Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM: DMA: steal memory for DMA coherent mappings Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 12:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-14  7:52     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-16 13:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-16 13:55         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-16 14:26           ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2011-08-17  8:01             ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-17 12:28               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-17 13:06                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-18  8:27                   ` Tixy
2011-08-17 12:49             ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-16 10:17     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 8/9] ARM: integrate CMA with DMA-mapping subsystem Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-12 15:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-16  9:29     ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-08-16 13:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-12 10:58 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: S5PV210: example of CMA private area for FIMC device on Goni board Marek Szyprowski

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