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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6]  memcg: stop vmscan when enough done.
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:52:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110811085252.b29081f1.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110810141425.GC15007@tiehlicka.suse.cz>

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:14:25 +0200
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:

> On Tue 09-08-11 19:09:33, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > memcg :avoid node fallback scan if possible.
> > 
> > Now, try_to_free_pages() scans all zonelist because the page allocator
> > should visit all zonelists...but that behavior is harmful for memcg.
> > Memcg just scans memory because it hits limit...no memory shortage
> > in pased zonelist.
> > 
> > For example, with following unbalanced nodes
> > 
> >      Node 0    Node 1
> > File 1G        0
> > Anon 200M      200M
> > 
> > memcg will cause swap-out from Node1 at every vmscan.
> > 
> > Another example, assume 1024 nodes system.
> > With 1024 node system, memcg will visit 1024 nodes
> > pages per vmscan... This is overkilling. 
> > 
> > This is why memcg's victim node selection logic doesn't work
> > as expected.
> > 
> > This patch is a help for stopping vmscan when we scanned enough.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> 
> OK, I see the point. At first I was afraid that we would make a bigger
> pressure on the node which triggered the reclaim but as we are selecting
> t dynamically (mem_cgroup_select_victim_node) - round robin at the
> moment - it should be fair in the end. More targeted node selection
> should be even more efficient.
> 
> I still have a concern about resize_limit code path, though. It uses
> memcg direct reclaim to get under the new limit (assuming it is lower
> than the current one). 
> Currently we might reclaim nr_nodes * SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX while
> after your change we have it at SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX. This means that
> mem_cgroup_resize_mem_limit might fail sooner on large NUMA machines
> (currently it is doing 5 rounds of reclaim before it gives up). I do not
> consider this to be blocker but maybe we should enhance
> mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim with a nr_pages argument to tell it how
> much we want to reclaim (min(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, nr_pages)).
> What do you think?
> 

Hmm,

> mem_cgroup_resize_mem_limit might fail sooner on large NUMA machines

mem_cgroup_resize_limit() just checks (curusage < prevusage), then, 
I agree reducing the number of scan/reclaim will cause that.

I agree to pass nr_pages to try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages().


Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-11  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-09 10:04 [PATCH v5 0/6] memg: better numa scanning KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-10 10:00   ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-10 23:30     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-10 23:44       ` [PATCH] memcg: fix comment on update nodemask KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-11 13:25         ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-09 10:09 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] memcg: stop vmscan when enough done KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-10 14:14   ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-10 23:52     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-08-11 14:50       ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-12 12:44         ` [PATCH] memcg: add nr_pages argument for hierarchical reclaim Michal Hocko
2011-08-17  0:54         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] memcg: stop vmscan when enough done KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 11:35           ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-17 23:52             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18  6:27               ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-18  6:42                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18  7:46                   ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-18 12:57                     ` [PATCH v3] memcg: add nr_pages argument for hierarchical reclaim Michal Hocko
2011-08-18 13:58                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-18 14:40                         ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-09 10:10 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] memg: vmscan pass nodemask KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-10 11:19   ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-10 23:43     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 10:11 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] memg: calculate numa weight for vmscan KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-17 14:34   ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-18  0:17     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18  8:41       ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-19  0:06         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 10:12 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] memg: vmscan select victim node by weight KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-18 13:34   ` Michal Hocko
2011-08-09 10:13 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] memg: do target scan if unbalanced KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 14:33 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] memg: better numa scanning Michal Hocko
2011-08-10  0:15   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-10  6:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-10 14:20     ` Michal Hocko

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