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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:55:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110715085520.23feca2d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110714150700.GC23587@infradead.org>

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:07:00 -0400
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 01:46:34PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > > XFS and btrfs already disable writeback from memcg context, as does ext4
> > > for the typical non-overwrite workloads, and none has fallen apart.
> > > 
> > > In fact there's no way we can enable them as the memcg calling contexts
> > > tend to have massive stack usage.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmm, XFS/btrfs adds pages to radix-tree in deep stack ?
> 
> We're using a fairly deep stack in normal buffered read/write,
> wich is almost 100% common code.  It's not just the long callchain
> (see below), but also that we put the unneeded kiocb and a vector
> of I/O vects on the stack:
> 
> vfs_writev
> do_readv_writev
> do_sync_write
> generic_file_aio_write
> __generic_file_aio_write
> generic_file_buffered_write
> generic_perform_write
> block_write_begin
> grab_cache_page_write_begin
> add_to_page_cache_lru
> add_to_page_cache
> add_to_page_cache_locked
> mem_cgroup_cache_charge
> 
> this might additionally come from in-kernel callers like nfsd,
> which has even more stack space used.  And at this point we only
> enter the memcg/reclaim code, which last time I had a stack trace
> ate up another about 3k of stack space.
> 

Hmm. I'll prepare 2 functions for memcg 
  1. asynchronous memory reclaim as kswapd does.
  2. dirty_ratio

please remove ->writepage 1st. It may break memcg but it happens sometimes.
We'll do fix.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-13 14:31 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim (again) Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 14:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 23:34   ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  6:17     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-14  1:38   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-07-14  4:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-14  4:46       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-07-14 15:07         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-14 23:55           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-07-15  2:22         ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-18  2:22           ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-18  3:06             ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  6:19     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-14  6:17       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-07-13 14:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 23:37   ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  6:29     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-14 11:52       ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14 13:17         ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-15  3:12           ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-13 14:31 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: vmscan: Throttle reclaim if encountering too many dirty pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 23:41   ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  6:33     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 14:31 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: vmscan: Immediately reclaim end-of-LRU dirty pages when writeback completes Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 16:40   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-07-13 17:15     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 14:31 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: writeback: Prioritise dirty inodes encountered by direct reclaim for background flushing Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 21:39   ` Jan Kara
2011-07-14  0:09     ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  7:03     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 23:56   ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  7:30     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-14 15:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-14 15:49     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-13 15:31 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim (again) Mel Gorman
2011-07-14  0:33 ` Dave Chinner
2011-07-14  4:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-14  7:37   ` Mel Gorman

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