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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:16:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110622091611.GB7585@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E015672.2020407@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:41:54AM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
> ??? 2011???06???21??? 17:36, Mel Gorman ??????:
> >
> >Fragmentation avoidance benefits from tuning min_free_kbytes to a higher
> >value and minimising fragmentation-related problems is crucial if THP is
> >to allocate its necessary pages.
> >
> >THP tunes min_free_kbytes automatically and this value is in part
> >related to the number of zones. At 512M on a single node machine, the
> >recommended min_free_kbytes is close to 10% of memory which is barely
> >tolerable as it is. At 256M, it's 17%, at 128M, it's 34% so tuning the
> >value lower has diminishing returns as the performance impact of giving
> >up such a high percentage of free memory is not going to be offset by
> >reduced TLB misses. Tuning it to a higher value might make some sense
> >if the higher min_free_kbytes was a problem but it would be much more
> >rational to tune it as a sysctl than making it a compile-time decision.
> >
> 
> What this patch changed is the check of total memory pages in hugepage_init(),
> which I don't think is suitable as a sysctl.
> 
> If you mean min_free_kbytes could be tuned as a sysctl, that should be done
> in other patch, right? :)
> 

min_free_kbytes is already automatically tuned when THP is enabled.

What I meant was that there is a rational reason why 512M is the
default for enabling THP by default. Tuning it lower than that by any
means makes very little sense. Tuning it higher might make some sense
but it is more likely that THP would simply be disabled via sysctl. I
see very little advantage to introducing this Kconfig option other
than as a source of confusion when running make oldconfig.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-22  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-20 16:34 [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:59   ` Dave Hansen
2011-06-20 17:23     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:59   ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:16     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21  9:36       ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22  2:41         ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22  9:16           ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-06-22 10:46             ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 11:15               ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22 12:34                 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: print information when THP is disabled automatically Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:54   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 17:25     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:01   ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:26     ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 19:37       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21  9:40       ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 16:55   ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:01   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 19:43     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21  3:15       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:58 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:07   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:10     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:19       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:28         ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:34           ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:50             ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 18:25               ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-20 19:21                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21  4:08                   ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 14:43                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22  2:56                       ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 14:22                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 20:01                     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-21  3:28               ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:58             ` Eric B Munson
2011-06-21  3:36               ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:59           ` Vivek Goyal

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