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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"bsingharora@gmail.com" <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [BUGFIX][PATCH v3] memcg: fix behavior of per cpu charge cache draining.
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:08:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110610090802.GB4110@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110610173958.d9ab901c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Fri 10-06-11 17:39:58, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:12:19 +0200
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu 09-06-11 09:30:45, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
[...]
> > > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > index bd9052a..3baddcb 100644
> > > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > [...]
> > >  static struct mem_cgroup_per_zone *
> > >  mem_cgroup_zoneinfo(struct mem_cgroup *mem, int nid, int zid)
> > > @@ -1670,8 +1670,6 @@ static int mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim(struct mem_cgroup *root_mem,
> > >  		victim = mem_cgroup_select_victim(root_mem);
> > >  		if (victim == root_mem) {
> > >  			loop++;
> > > -			if (loop >= 1)
> > > -				drain_all_stock_async();
> > >  			if (loop >= 2) {
> > >  				/*
> > >  				 * If we have not been able to reclaim
> > > @@ -1723,6 +1721,7 @@ static int mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim(struct mem_cgroup *root_mem,
> > >  				return total;
> > >  		} else if (mem_cgroup_margin(root_mem))
> > >  			return total;
> > > +		drain_all_stock_async(root_mem);
> > >  	}
> > >  	return total;
> > >  }
> > 
> > I still think that we pointlessly reclaim even though we could have a
> > lot of pages pre-charged in the cache (the more CPUs we have the more
> > significant this might be).
> 
> The more CPUs, the more scan cost for each per-cpu memory, which makes
> cache-miss.
> 
> I know placement of drain_all_stock_async() is not big problem on my host,
> which has 2socket/8core cpus. But, assuming 1000+ cpu host, 

Hmm, it really depends what you want to optimize for. Reclaim path is
already slow path and cache misses, while not good, are not the most
significant issue, I guess.
What I would see as a much bigger problem is that there might be a lot
of memory pre-charged at those per-cpu caches. Falling into a reclaim
costs us much more IMO and we can evict something that could be useful
for no good reason.

> "when you hit limit, you'll see 1000*128bytes cache miss and need to
> call test_and_set for 1000+ cpus in bad case." doesn't seem much win.
> 
> If we implement "call-drain-only-nearby-cpus", I think we can call it before
> calling try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(). I'll add it to my TO-DO-LIST.

It would just consider cpus at the same node?

> How do you think ?

I am afraid we would need two versions then. One for complete draining
(rmdir and company) while the other for reclaim purposes. Which sounds
like a more code complexity.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
SUSE LINUX s.r.o.
Lihovarska 1060/12
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Czech Republic

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-10  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-09  0:30 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-09  1:30 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-06-10  8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10  8:39   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10  9:08     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2011-06-10  9:59       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-06-10 11:04         ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10 12:24           ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-10 13:31             ` Michal Hocko

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