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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Cc: Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:50:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110602075028.GB20630@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=sYtLGk2_VQLejEU2rQ0JBgg_ZmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:05:18PM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Hiroyuki Kamezawa
> <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2011/6/1 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> this is the second version of the memcg naturalization series.  The
> >> notable changes since the first submission are:
> >>
> >>    o the hierarchy walk is now intermittent and will abort and
> >>      remember the last scanned child after sc->nr_to_reclaim pages
> >>      have been reclaimed during the walk in one zone (Rik)
> >>
> >>    o the global lru lists are never scanned when memcg is enabled
> >>      after #2 'memcg-aware global reclaim', which makes this patch
> >>      self-sufficient and complete without requiring the per-memcg lru
> >>      lists to be exclusive (Michal)
> >>
> >>    o renamed sc->memcg and sc->current_memcg to sc->target_mem_cgroup
> >>      and sc->mem_cgroup and fixed their documentation, I hope this is
> >>      better understandable now (Rik)
> >>
> >>    o the reclaim statistic counters have been renamed.  there is no
> >>      more distinction between 'pgfree' and 'pgsteal', it is now
> >>      'pgreclaim' in both cases; 'kswapd' has been replaced by
> >>      'background'
> >>
> >>    o fixed a nasty crash in the hierarchical soft limit check that
> >>      happened during global reclaim in memcgs that are hierarchical
> >>      but have no hierarchical parents themselves
> >>
> >>    o properly implemented the memcg-aware unevictable page rescue
> >>      scanner, there were several blatant bugs in there
> >>
> >>    o documentation on new public interfaces
> >>
> >> Thanks for your input on the first version.
> >>
> >> I ran microbenchmarks (sparse file catting, essentially) to stress
> >> reclaim and LRU operations.  There is no measurable overhead for
> >> !CONFIG_MEMCG, memcg disabled during boot, memcg enabled but no
> >> configured groups, and hard limit reclaim.
> >>
> >> I also ran single-threaded kernbenchs in four unlimited memcgs in
> >> parallel, contained in a hard-limited hierarchical parent that put
> >> constant pressure on the workload.  There is no measurable difference
> >> in runtime, the pgpgin/pgpgout counters, and fairness among memcgs in
> >> this test compared to an unpatched kernel.  Needs more evaluation,
> >> especially with a higher number of memcgs.
> >>
> >> The soft limit changes are also proven to work in so far that it is
> >> possible to prioritize between children in a hierarchy under pressure
> >> and that runtime differences corresponded directly to the soft limit
> >> settings in the previously described kernbench setup with staggered
> >> soft limits on the groups, but this needs quantification.
> >>
> >> Based on v2.6.39.
> >>
> >
> > Hmm, I welcome and will review this patches but.....some points I want to say.
> >
> > 1. No more conflict with Ying's work ?
> >    Could you explain what she has and what you don't in this v2 ?
> >    If Ying's one has something good to be merged to your set, please
> > include it.
> 
> My patch I sent out last time was doing rework of soft_limit reclaim.
> It convert the RB-tree based to
> a linked list round-robin fashion of all memcgs across their soft
> limit per-zone.
> 
> I will apply this patch and try to test it. After that i will get
> better idea whether or not it is being covered here.

Thanks!!

> > 4. This work can be splitted into some small works.
> >     a) fix for current code and clean ups
> 
> >     a') statistics
> 
> >     b) soft limit rework
> 
> >     c) change global reclaim
> 
> My last patchset starts with a patch reverting the RB-tree
> implementation of the soft_limit
> reclaim, and then the new round-robin implementation comes on the
> following patches.
> 
> I like the ordering here, and that is consistent w/ the plan we
> discussed earlier in LSF. Changing
> the global reclaim would be the last step when the changes before that
> have been well understood
> and tested.
> 
> Sorry If that is how it is done here. I will read through the patchset.

It's not.  The way I implemented soft limits depends on global reclaim
performing hierarchical reclaim.  I don't see how I can reverse the
order with this dependency.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-02  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01  6:25 Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 1/8] memcg: remove unused retry signal from reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 2/8] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:59   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 15:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 16:14       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:29         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 14:01           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  9:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-09 16:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 13:12   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-09 13:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 15:48   ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 17:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 23:41       ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-09 23:47         ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-10  0:34           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:48             ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-11 20:39   ` Ying Han
2011-08-11 21:09     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:15       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:22         ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:57           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  6:08             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 19:04           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29 20:36             ` Ying Han
2011-08-29 21:05               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-30  7:07                 ` Ying Han
2011-08-30 15:14                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-31 22:58                     ` Ying Han
2011-09-21  8:44                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  8:07         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 3/8] memcg: reclaim statistics Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 4/8] memcg: rework soft limit reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  5:37   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 21:55   ` Ying Han
2011-06-03  5:25     ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 15:00       ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-10  7:36         ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:57           ` Ying Han
2011-06-16  0:33             ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:45             ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-15 22:48         ` Ying Han
2011-06-16 11:41           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 5/8] memcg: remove unused soft limit code Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 6/8] vmscan: change zone_nr_lru_pages to take memcg instead of scan control Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:30   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13  9:29   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 7/8] vmscan: memcg-aware unevictable page rescue scanner Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:27   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:27     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 21:02     ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 22:01       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 22:19         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 23:15           ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-03  5:08           ` Ying Han
2011-06-13  9:42   ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-13 11:18       ` Michal Hocko
2011-07-19 22:47   ` Ying Han
2011-07-20  0:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-29  7:28       ` Ying Han
2011-08-29  7:59         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01  6:25 ` [patch 8/8] mm: make per-memcg lru lists exclusive Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 13:16   ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 14:24     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 15:54       ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 17:57         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08 15:04           ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-07 12:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-08  8:54     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-11 20:33   ` Ying Han
2011-08-12  8:34     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08       ` Ying Han
2011-08-12 19:17         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-15  3:01           ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  1:34       ` Ying Han
2011-08-15  9:39         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-01 23:52 ` [patch 0/8] mm: memcg naturalization -rc2 Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02  0:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-06-09  1:13     ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-02  4:05   ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:50     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-06-02 15:51       ` Ying Han
2011-06-02 17:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-08  3:45           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08  3:53           ` Ying Han
2011-06-08 15:32             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  3:52               ` Ying Han
2011-06-09  8:35                 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 17:36                   ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 18:36                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09 21:38                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 22:30                       ` Ying Han
2011-06-09 23:31                         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-10  0:17                           ` Ying Han
2011-06-02  7:33   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02  9:06     ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-02 10:00       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-02 12:59         ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-06-09  1:15           ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-09  8:43             ` Johannes Weiner
2011-06-09  9:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-06-13  9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-13 10:35   ` Johannes Weiner

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