From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: minchan.kim@gmail.com, James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, colin.king@canonical.com,
raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz, chris.mason@oracle.com,
cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:57:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110518095720.GQ5279@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD31221.3060205@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:26:09AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> >Lets see;
> >
> >shrink_page_list() only applies if inactive pages were isolated
> > which in turn may not happen if all_unreclaimable is set in
> > shrink_zones(). If for whatver reason, all_unreclaimable is
> > set on all zones, we can miss calling cond_resched().
> >
> >shrink_slab only applies if we are reclaiming slab pages. If the first
> > shrinker returns -1, we do not call cond_resched(). If that
> > first shrinker is dcache and __GFP_FS is not set, direct
> > reclaimers will not shrink at all. However, if there are
> > enough of them running or if one of the other shrinkers
> > is running for a very long time, kswapd could be starved
> > acquiring the shrinker_rwsem and never reaching the
> > cond_resched().
>
> OK.
>
>
> >
> >balance_pgdat() only calls cond_resched if the zones are not
> > balanced. For a high-order allocation that is balanced, it
> > checks order-0 again. During that window, order-0 might have
> > become unbalanced so it loops again for order-0 and returns
> > that was reclaiming for order-0 to kswapd(). It can then find
> > that a caller has rewoken kswapd for a high-order and re-enters
> > balance_pgdat() without ever have called cond_resched().
>
> Then, Shouldn't balance_pgdat() call cond_resched() unconditionally?
> The problem is NOT 100% cpu consumption. if kswapd will sleep, other
> processes need to reclaim old pages. The problem is, kswapd doesn't
> invoke context switch and other tasks hang-up.
>
Which the shrink_slab patch does (either version). What's the gain from
sprinkling more cond_resched() around? If you think there is, submit
another pair of patches (include patch 1 from this series) but I'm not
seeing the advantage myself.
>
> >While it appears unlikely, there are bad conditions which can result
> >in cond_resched() being avoided.
> >
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-18 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-13 14:03 [PATCH 0/4] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations V2 Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct use of pgdat_balanced in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-14 16:30 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 21:10 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-18 6:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-18 17:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 21:16 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 8:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 13:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 16:22 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 17:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 19:35 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 19:31 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 10:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-16 4:21 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-16 5:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 8:45 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 8:58 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 23:50 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 0:48 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 13:50 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-17 16:15 ` [PATCH] mm: vmscan: Correctly check if reclaimer should schedule during shrink_slab Mel Gorman
2011-05-18 0:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-19 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 0:09 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 11:36 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-20 0:06 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 4:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 7:39 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-18 4:09 ` James Bottomley
2011-05-18 1:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 5:44 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 6:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18 22:55 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 23:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 0:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 9:57 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-05-16 8:45 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-13 15:19 ` [PATCH 0/4] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations V2 James Bottomley
2011-05-13 15:52 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 15:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 15:43 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-14 8:34 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-16 8:37 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 11:24 ` Colin Ian King
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