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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] memcg: add high/low watermark to res_counter
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:49:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110503064945.GA18927@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110501150410.75D2.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Sun 01-05-11 15:06:02, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > On Mon 25-04-11 18:28:49, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > > There are two watermarks added per-memcg including "high_wmark" and "low_wmark".
> > > The per-memcg kswapd is invoked when the memcg's memory usage(usage_in_bytes)
> > > is higher than the low_wmark. Then the kswapd thread starts to reclaim pages
> > > until the usage is lower than the high_wmark.
> > 
> > I have mentioned this during Ying's patchsets already, but do we really
> > want to have this confusing naming? High and low watermarks have
> > opposite semantic for zones.
> 
> Can you please clarify this? I feel it is not opposite semantics.

In the global reclaim low watermark represents the point when we _start_
background reclaim while high watermark is the _stopper_. Watermarks are
based on the free memory while this proposal makes it based on the used
memory.
I understand that the result is same in the end but it is really
confusing because you have to switch your mindset from free to used and
from under the limit to above the limit.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-03  6:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-25  9:25 [PATCH 0/7] memcg background reclaim , yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] memcg: add high/low watermark to res_counter KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 17:54   ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 13:33   ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-01  6:06     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-03  6:49       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2011-05-03  7:45         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-03  8:25           ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-03 17:01             ` Ying Han
2011-05-04  8:58               ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-04 17:16                 ` Ying Han
2011-05-05  6:59                   ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-06  5:28                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-06 14:22                       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09  0:21                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-09  5:47                           ` Ying Han
2011-05-09  9:58                           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09  9:59                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-10  4:43                             ` Ying Han
2011-05-09  5:40                       ` Ying Han
2011-05-09  7:10                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-09 10:18                           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09 12:49                             ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-09 23:49                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-10  4:39                                 ` Ying Han
2011-05-10  4:51                             ` Ying Han
2011-05-10  6:27                               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-10  7:09                                 ` Ying Han
2011-05-04  3:55             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-04  8:55               ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-09  3:24                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-02  9:07   ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-06  5:30     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:29 ` [PATCH 2/7] memcg high watermark interface KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 22:36   ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] memcg: select victim node in round robin KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] memcg fix scan ratio with small memcg KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 17:35   ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  1:43     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] memcg bgreclaim core KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  4:59   ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  5:08     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:15       ` Ying Han
2011-04-27  0:10         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27  1:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 18:37   ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:40 ` [PATCH 6/7] memcg add zone_all_unreclaimable KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25  9:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] memcg watermark reclaim workqueue KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:19   ` Ying Han
2011-04-27  0:31     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27  3:40       ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:43 ` [PATCH 8/7] memcg : reclaim statistics KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  5:35   ` Ying Han
2011-04-25  9:49 ` [PATCH 0/7] memcg background reclaim , yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 10:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 22:21   ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  1:38     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  7:19       ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  7:43         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26  8:43           ` Ying Han
2011-04-26  8:47             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:08               ` Ying Han
2011-04-27  0:34                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27  1:19                   ` Ying Han
2011-04-28  3:55               ` Ying Han
2011-04-28  4:05                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-02  7:02     ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-02  6:09 ` Balbir Singh

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