From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] memcg bgreclaim core.
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:01:27 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110427100127.903f6c26.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110427091030.62a24064.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:10:30 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:15:04 -0700
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
> > So, here we fix the amount of work per-memcg, and the performance for those
> > jobs will be hurt. If i understand
> > correctly, we only have one workitem on the workqueue per memcg. So which
> > means we can only reclaim those amount of pages for each iteration. And if
> > the queue is big, those jobs(heavy memory allocating, and willing to pay cpu
> > to do bg reclaim) will hit direct reclaim more than necessary.
> >
>
> But, from measurements, we cannot reclaim enough memory on time if the work
> is busy. Can you think of 'make -j 8' doesn't hit the limit by bgreclaim ?
>
> 'Working hard' just adds more CPU consumption and results more latency.
> From my point of view, if direct reclaim has problematic costs, bgreclaim is
> not easy and slow, too. Then, 'work harder' cannot be help. And spike of
> memory consumption can be very rapid. If an application exec an application
> which does malloc(2G), under 1G limit memcg, we cannot avoid direct reclaim.
>
> I think the user can set limit higher and distance between limit <-> wmark large.
> Then, he can gain more time and avoid hitting direct relcaim. How about enlarging
> limit <-> wmark range for performance intensive jobs ?
> Amount of work per memcg is limit <-> wmark range, I guess.
>
BTW, in another idea, I wonder I should limit work iterms by reducing max_active
because it may burn cpu. If we need, we can have 2 workqueues of high/low priority.
high workqueue has big max_active(0?) and low workqueue has small max_active.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-27 1:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-25 9:25 [PATCH 0/7] memcg background reclaim , yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 9:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] memcg: add high/low watermark to res_counter KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 17:54 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 13:33 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-01 6:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-03 6:49 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-03 7:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-03 8:25 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-03 17:01 ` Ying Han
2011-05-04 8:58 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-04 17:16 ` Ying Han
2011-05-05 6:59 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-06 5:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-06 14:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09 0:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-09 5:47 ` Ying Han
2011-05-09 9:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09 9:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-10 4:43 ` Ying Han
2011-05-09 5:40 ` Ying Han
2011-05-09 7:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-09 10:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-09 12:49 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-09 23:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-10 4:39 ` Ying Han
2011-05-10 4:51 ` Ying Han
2011-05-10 6:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-10 7:09 ` Ying Han
2011-05-04 3:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-04 8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-09 3:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-02 9:07 ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-06 5:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 9:29 ` [PATCH 2/7] memcg high watermark interface KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 22:36 ` Ying Han
2011-04-25 9:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] memcg: select victim node in round robin KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 9:34 ` [PATCH 4/7] memcg fix scan ratio with small memcg KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 17:35 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 1:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 9:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] memcg bgreclaim core KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 4:59 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 5:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:15 ` Ying Han
2011-04-27 0:10 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27 1:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-04-26 18:37 ` Ying Han
2011-04-25 9:40 ` [PATCH 6/7] memcg add zone_all_unreclaimable KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 9:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] memcg watermark reclaim workqueue KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:19 ` Ying Han
2011-04-27 0:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27 3:40 ` Ying Han
2011-04-25 9:43 ` [PATCH 8/7] memcg : reclaim statistics KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 5:35 ` Ying Han
2011-04-25 9:49 ` [PATCH 0/7] memcg background reclaim , yet another one KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 10:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 22:21 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 1:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 7:19 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 7:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 8:43 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 8:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 23:08 ` Ying Han
2011-04-27 0:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27 1:19 ` Ying Han
2011-04-28 3:55 ` Ying Han
2011-04-28 4:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-02 7:02 ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-02 6:09 ` Balbir Singh
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