From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix get_scan_count for working well with small targets
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:46:22 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110427084622.02305c53.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110426135934.c1992c3e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:59:34 -0700
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:17:24 +0900
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
> > At memory reclaim, we determine the number of pages to be scanned
> > per zone as
> > (anon + file) >> priority.
> > Assume
> > scan = (anon + file) >> priority.
> >
> > If scan < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, shlink_list will be skipped for this
> > priority and results no-sacn. This has some problems.
> >
> > 1. This increases priority as 1 without any scan.
> > To do scan in DEF_PRIORITY always, amount of pages should be larger than
> > 512M. If pages>>priority < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, it's recorded and scan will be
> > batched, later. (But we lose 1 priority.)
> > But if the amount of pages is smaller than 16M, no scan at priority==0
> > forever.
> >
> > 2. If zone->all_unreclaimabe==true, it's scanned only when priority==0.
> > So, x86's ZONE_DMA will never be recoverred until the user of pages
> > frees memory by itself.
> >
> > 3. With memcg, the limit of memory can be small. When using small memcg,
> > it gets priority < DEF_PRIORITY-2 very easily and need to call
> > wait_iff_congested().
> > For doing scan before priorty=9, 64MB of memory should be used.
> >
> > This patch tries to scan SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX of pages in force...when
> >
> > 1. the target is enough small.
> > 2. it's kswapd or memcg reclaim.
> >
> > Then we can avoid rapid priority drop and may be able to recover
> > all_unreclaimable in a small zones.
>
> What about simply removing the nr_saved_scan logic and permitting small
> scans? That simplifies the code and I bet it makes no measurable
> performance difference.
>
When I considered memcg, I thought of that. But I noticed ZONE_DMA will not
be scanned even if we do so (and zone->all_unreclaimable will not be recovered
until someone free its page by himself.)
> (A good thing to do here would be to instrument the code and determine
> the frequency with which we perform short scans, as well as their
> shortness. ie: a histogram).
>
With memcg, I hope we can scan SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX always, at leaset. Considering
a bad case as
- memory cgroup is small and the system is swapless, file cache is small.
doing SWAP_CLUSETE_MAX file cache scan always seems to make sense to me.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-26 23:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-26 9:17 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 17:36 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-26 20:59 ` Andrew Morton
2011-04-26 23:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-04-27 1:50 ` [PATCH v2] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27 3:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-27 5:08 ` Minchan Kim
2011-04-27 5:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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