From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 00/10] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:46:27 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110421134627.6a7a6ad5.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTimp+=soLEH7M8yUpsLLssjgyKrL4w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:24:07 -0700
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:00 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
> kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > Two watermarks ("high_wmark", "low_wmark") are added to trigger the
> > > > background reclaim and stop it. The watermarks are calculated based
> > > > on the cgroup's limit_in_bytes.
> > >
> > > Which brings me to the next issue: making the watermarks configurable.
> > >
> > > You argued that having them adjustable from userspace is required for
> > > overcommitting the hardlimits and per-memcg kswapd reclaim not kicking
> > > in in case of global memory pressure. But that is only a problem
> > > because global kswapd reclaim is (apart from soft limit reclaim)
> > > unaware of memory control groups.
> > >
> > > I think the much better solution is to make global kswapd memcg aware
> > > (with the above mentioned round-robin reclaim scheduler), compared to
> > > adding new (and final!) kernel ABI to avoid an internal shortcoming.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think its a good idea to kick kswapd even when free memory is
> > enough.
> >
> > If memcg-kswapd implemted, I'd like to add auto-cgroup for memcg-kswapd and
> > limit its cpu usage because it works even when memory is not in-short.
> >
>
> How are we gonna isolate the memcg-kswapd cpu usage under the workqueue
> model?
>
Admin can limit the total cpu usage of memcg-kswapd. So, using private
workqueue model seems to make sense.
If background-reclaim uses up its cpu share, heavy worker memcg will hit
direct reclaim and need to consume its own cpu time. I think it's fair.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-21 4:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-19 3:57 Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 01/10] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 02/10] Add per memcg reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 03/10] New APIs to adjust per-memcg wmarks Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 04/10] Infrastructure to support per-memcg reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 05/10] Implement the select_victim_node within memcg Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 06/10] Per-memcg background reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-20 1:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-20 3:25 ` Ying Han
2011-04-20 4:20 ` Ying Han
2012-03-19 8:14 ` Zhu Yanhai
2012-03-20 5:37 ` Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 07/10] Add per-memcg zone "unreclaimable" Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 08/10] Enable per-memcg background reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 09/10] Add API to export per-memcg kswapd pid Ying Han
2011-04-20 1:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-20 3:39 ` Ying Han
2011-04-19 3:57 ` [PATCH V6 10/10] Add some per-memcg stats Ying Han
2011-04-21 2:51 ` [PATCH V6 00/10] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-04-21 3:05 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 3:53 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-21 4:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 4:24 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 4:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-04-21 5:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-21 5:28 ` Ying Han
2011-04-23 1:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-23 2:10 ` Ying Han
2011-04-23 2:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-23 3:33 ` Ying Han
2011-04-23 3:41 ` Rik van Riel
2011-04-23 3:49 ` Ying Han
2011-04-27 7:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-27 17:41 ` Ying Han
2011-04-27 21:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-21 5:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 6:23 ` Ying Han
2011-04-23 2:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-21 3:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 3:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] weight for memcg background reclaim (Was " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 6:11 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 6:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 6:59 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 7:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 7:12 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 3:50 ` [PATCH 3/3/] fix mem_cgroup_watemark_ok " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 5:29 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 4:22 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 4:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 4:31 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 3:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg kswapd thread pool (Was " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 7:09 ` Ying Han
2011-04-21 7:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 8:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-04-21 8:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-21 9:05 ` Minchan Kim
2011-04-21 16:56 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 1:02 ` Minchan Kim
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