Re: Background memory scrubbing

Re: Background memory scrubbing

[Borislav Petkov]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 04:46:22PM +0100, Robert Whitton wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 05:19:41PM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately in common with a large number of hardware platforms
> > > > background scrubbing isn't supported in the hardware (even though ECC
> > > > error correction is supported) and thus there is no BIOS option to
> > > > enable it.
> > > 
> > > Which hardware platform is this? AFAICT all architectures with ECC
> > > (old AMD64, Family 0Fh, Family 10h) also have scrubbing support.
> > > If your BIOS is too dumb, just try enabling it directly (bits 0-4 of
> > > PCI configuration register 0x58 in function 3 of the CPU's northbridge
> > > device, see the BIOS and Kernel's Developer's Guide for details).
> > 
> > Or even better, if on AMD, you can build the amd64_edac module
> > (CONFIG_EDAC_AMD64) and do
> > 
> > echo  > /sys/devices/system/edac/mc/mc/sdram_scrub_rate
> > 
> > where x is the scrubbing bandwidth in bytes/sec and y is the memory
> > controller on the machine, i.e. node.
>
> Unfortunately that also isn't an option on my platform(s). There surely must be a way for a module to be able to get a mapping for each physical page of memory in the system and to be able to use that mapping to do atomic read/writes to scrub the memory.

For such questions I've added just the right ML to Cc :).

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Re: Background memory scrubbing

[Chris Friesen]

On 04/20/2011 10:01 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 04:46:22PM +0100, Robert Whitton wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 05:19:41PM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately in common with a large number of hardware platforms
>>>>> background scrubbing isn't supported in the hardware (even though ECC
>>>>> error correction is supported) and thus there is no BIOS option to
>>>>> enable it.
>>>>
>>>> Which hardware platform is this? AFAICT all architectures with ECC
>>>> (old AMD64, Family 0Fh, Family 10h) also have scrubbing support.
>>>> If your BIOS is too dumb, just try enabling it directly (bits 0-4 of
>>>> PCI configuration register 0x58 in function 3 of the CPU's northbridge
>>>> device, see the BIOS and Kernel's Developer's Guide for details).
>>>
>>> Or even better, if on AMD, you can build the amd64_edac module
>>> (CONFIG_EDAC_AMD64) and do
>>>
>>> echo  > /sys/devices/system/edac/mc/mc/sdram_scrub_rate
>>>
>>> where x is the scrubbing bandwidth in bytes/sec and y is the memory
>>> controller on the machine, i.e. node.
>>
>> Unfortunately that also isn't an option on my platform(s). There surely must be a way for a module to be able to get a mapping for each physical page of memory in the system and to be able to use that mapping to do atomic read/writes to scrub the memory.
> 
> For such questions I've added just the right ML to Cc :).

There was a thread back in 2009 cwith the subject "marching through all
physical memory in software" that discussed some of the issues of a
software background scrub.

Chris

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