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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] oom: prevent unnecessary oom kills or kernel panics
Date: Wed,  9 Mar 2011 19:36:00 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110309192955.040C.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1103081549530.27910@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> 
> > > > By iterating over threads instead, it is possible to detect threads that
> > > > are exiting and nominate them for oom kill so they get access to memory
> > > > reserves.
> > >
> > > In fact, PF_EXITING is a sing of *THREAD* exiting, not process. Therefore
> > > PF_EXITING is not a sign of memory freeing in nearly future. If other
> > > CPUs don't try to free memory, prevent oom and waiting makes deadlock.
> > 
> > I agree. I don't understand this patch.
> > 
> 
> Using for_each_process() does not consider threads that have failed to 
> exit after the oom killed parent and, thus, we select another innocent 
> task to kill when we're really just waiting for those threads to exit (and 
> perhaps they need memory reserves in the exit path) or, in the worst case, 
> panic if there is nothing else eligible.
> 
> The end result is that without this patch, we sometimes unnecessarily 
> panic (and "sometimes" is defined as "many machines" for us) when nothing 
> else is eligible for kill within an oom cpuset yet doing a 
> do_each_thread() over that cpuset shows threads of previously oom killed 
> parent that have yet to exit.

Only your workload careness don't make any excuse to break other worlds.
Google workload specific patch should be maintained in their. We only want 
to discuss to make world happy.

Guys, Why don't run the test program. Oleg did spnet some times for you.



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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-09 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-01 19:09 David Rientjes
2011-03-03  1:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-03 19:53   ` David Rientjes
2011-03-06 11:14     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-06 22:06       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  0:24         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-08  2:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-08 13:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-08 23:57     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-09 10:36       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2011-03-09 11:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-09 20:32         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-10 12:05           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 15:40             ` [PATCH 0/1] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 15:41               ` [PATCH 1/1] oom_kill_task: mark every thread as TIF_MEMDIE Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13  1:08                 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-10 16:36               ` [PATCH 0/1] select_bad_process: improve the PF_EXITING check Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 16:37                 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 16:40                 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 17:18                   ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 17:19                     ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13  1:06             ` [patch] oom: prevent unnecessary oom kills or kernel panics David Rientjes
2011-03-09 23:19       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-11 19:45         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-12 12:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 13:43             ` [PATCH 0/3] oom: TIF_MEMDIE/PF_EXITING fixes Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 13:44               ` [PATCH 1/3] oom: oom_kill_task: mark every thread as TIF_MEMDIE Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13  1:14                 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-12 13:44               ` [PATCH 2/3] oom: select_bad_process: improve the PF_EXITING check Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 13:44               ` [PATCH 3/3] oom: select_bad_process: use same_thread_group() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 19:40               ` [PATCH 0/3] oom: TIF_MEMDIE/PF_EXITING fixes Hugh Dickins
2011-03-13  8:53                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-13 21:27                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:04                   ` [PATCH 0/3 for 2.6.38] oom: fixes Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:04                     ` [PATCH 1/3 for 2.6.38] oom: oom_kill_process: don't set TIF_MEMDIE if !p->mm Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-14 20:31                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 20:32                         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 19:12                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 19:51                             ` David Rientjes
2011-03-14 20:22                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 18:53                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 19:54                           ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 21:16                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:05                     ` [PATCH 2/3 for 2.6.38] oom: select_bad_process: ignore TIF_MEMDIE zombies Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 20:50                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-14 19:05                     ` [PATCH 3/3 for 2.6.38] oom: oom_kill_process: fix the child_points logic Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 20:41                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 19:21                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13 11:36               ` [PATCH 0/3] oom: TIF_MEMDIE/PF_EXITING fixes KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-13  1:11             ` [patch] oom: prevent unnecessary oom kills or kernel panics David Rientjes
2011-03-13  1:15               ` [patch -mm] oom: avoid deferring oom killer if exiting task is being traced David Rientjes
2011-03-14 17:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov

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