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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Barrett <damentz@liquorix.net>,
	Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] deactivate invalidated pages
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:29:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110221082952.GB25382@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5b1eeca414d39e77afdb9684eab36addd11520a1.1298212517.git.minchan.kim@gmail.com>

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:43:36PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Recently, there are reported problem about thrashing.
> (http://marc.info/?l=rsync&m=128885034930933&w=2)
> It happens by backup workloads(ex, nightly rsync).
> That's because the workload makes just use-once pages
> and touches pages twice. It promotes the page into
> active list so that it results in working set page eviction.
> 
> Some app developer want to support POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE.
> But other OSes don't support it, either.
> (http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=128928979512086&w=2)
> 
> By other approach, app developers use POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED.
> But it has a problem. If kernel meets page is writing
> during invalidate_mapping_pages, it can't work.
> It makes for application programmer to use it since they always
> have to sync data before calling fadivse(..POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED) to
> make sure the pages could be discardable. At last, they can't use
> deferred write of kernel so that they could see performance loss.
> (http://insights.oetiker.ch/linux/fadvise.html)
> 
> In fact, invalidation is very big hint to reclaimer.
> It means we don't use the page any more. So let's move
> the writing page into inactive list's head if we can't truncate
> it right now.
> 
> Why I move page to head of lru on this patch, Dirty/Writeback page
> would be flushed sooner or later. It can prevent writeout of pageout
> which is less effective than flusher's writeout.
> 
> Originally, I reused lru_demote of Peter with some change so added
> his Signed-off-by.
> 
> Reported-by: Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> Reviewed-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>

Reviewed-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-21  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-20 14:43 [PATCH v6 0/4] fadvise(DONTNEED) support Minchan Kim
2011-02-20 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] deactivate invalidated pages Minchan Kim
2011-02-21  8:29   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-02-20 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] memcg: move memcg reclaimable page into tail of inactive list Minchan Kim
2011-02-21  8:40   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-21 14:07     ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-21 15:59     ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-21 16:06       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-03-28 12:51       ` [PATCH] memcg: fix mem_cgroup_rotate_reclaimable_page Eric Dumazet
2011-03-28 13:45         ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-20 14:43 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] Reclaim invalidated page ASAP Minchan Kim
2011-02-21 19:07 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] fadvise(DONTNEED) support Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-21 22:59   ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-22 13:28     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-22 14:26       ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-22 14:46         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-22 17:03       ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2011-02-22 17:11         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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