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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Add per cgroup reclaim watermarks.
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:27:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101201092701.182a9980.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik2Sy0MzGAsZyDHsoZYKUpdJ7kS7nFM1QX_ioZR@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:44:13 -0800
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:21 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:49:43 -0800
> > Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The per cgroup kswapd is invoked at mem_cgroup_charge when the cgroup's memory
> >> usage above a threshold--low_wmark. Then the kswapd thread starts to reclaim
> >> pages in a priority loop similar to global algorithm. The kswapd is done if the
> >> memory usage below a threshold--high_wmark.
> >>
> >> The per cgroup background reclaim is based on the per cgroup LRU and also adds
> >> per cgroup watermarks. There are two watermarks including "low_wmark" and
> >> "high_wmark", and they are calculated based on the limit_in_bytes(hard_limit)
> >> for each cgroup. Each time the hard_limit is change, the corresponding wmarks
> >> are re-calculated. Since memory controller charges only user pages, there is
> >> no need for a "min_wmark". The current calculation of wmarks is a function of
> >> "memory.min_free_kbytes" which could be adjusted by writing different values
> >> into the new api. This is added mainly for debugging purpose.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
> >
> > A few points.
> >
> > 1. I can understand the motivation for including low/high watermark to
> > A  res_coutner. But, sadly, compareing all charge will make the counter slow.
> > A  IMHO, as memory controller threshold-check or soft limit, checking usage
> > A  periodically based on event counter is enough. It will be low cost.
> 
> If we have other limits using the event counter, this sounds a
> feasible try for the
> wmarks. I can look into that.
> 
> >
> > 2. min_free_kbytes must be automatically calculated.
> > A  For example, max(3% of limit, 20MB) or some.
> 
> Now the wmark is automatically calculated based on the limit. Adding
> the min_free_kbytes gives
> us more flexibility to adjust the portion of the threshold. This could
> just be a performance tuning
> parameter later. I need it now at least at the beginning before
> figuring out a reasonable calculation
> formula.
> 
mm/page_alloc.c::init_per_zone_wmark_min() can be reused.

My question is.

> >> +void setup_per_memcg_wmarks(struct mem_cgroup *mem)
> >> +{
> >> + A  A  u64 limit;
> >> + A  A  unsigned long min_free_kbytes;
> >> +
> >> + A  A  min_free_kbytes = get_min_free_kbytes(mem);
> >> + A  A  limit = mem_cgroup_get_limit(mem);
> >> + A  A  if (min_free_kbytes == 0) {

I think this min_free_kbyte is always 0 until a user set it.
Please set this when the limit is changed, automatically.

I wonder
	struct mem_cgroup {

		unsigned long min_free_kbytes;
		unsigned long min_free_kbytes_user_set; /* use this always if set */
	}
may be necessary if we never adjust min_free_kbytes once a user set it.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-01  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-30  6:49 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:08   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  8:15     ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-30  8:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  8:54         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:40           ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 23:46             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07  6:15           ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07  6:24             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07  6:59               ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07  8:00                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:26       ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 20:17     ` Ying Han
2010-12-01  0:12       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07  6:52   ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 19:21     ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 12:33   ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-07 17:28     ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  0:39       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08  1:24         ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  1:28           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08  2:10             ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  2:13               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 12:19           ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-08  7:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-07 18:50     ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  7:22     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-08  7:37       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add per cgroup reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:44     ` Ying Han
2010-12-01  0:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-12-07 14:56   ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] Per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:51   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  8:07     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 22:01       ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 22:00     ` Ying Han
2010-12-07  2:25     ` Ying Han
2010-12-07  5:21       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-01  2:18   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01  2:16     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add more per memcg stats Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:53   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 18:22     ` Ying Han
2010-11-30  6:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30  7:03   ` Ying Han
2010-12-02 14:41     ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07  2:29       ` Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  9:05   ` Ying Han

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