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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, Simon Kirby <sim@hostway.ca>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Free memory never fully used, swapping
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:19:28 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101130201821.8319.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101130104136.GK13268@csn.ul.ie>

Hi

> > > > >  out:
> > > > > -	if (!all_zones_ok) {
> > > > > +	if (!(all_zones_ok || (order && any_zone_ok))) {
> > > > 
> > > > This doesn't work ;)
> > > > kswapd have to clear ZONE_CONGESTED flag before enter sleeping.
> > > > otherwise nobody can clear it.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Does it not do it earlier in balance_pgdat() here
> > > 
> > >                                 /*
> > >                                  * If a zone reaches its high watermark,
> > >                                  * consider it to be no longer congested. It's
> > >                                  * possible there are dirty pages backed by
> > >                                  * congested BDIs but as pressure is
> > >                                  * relieved, spectulatively avoid congestion waits
> > >                                  */
> > >                                 zone_clear_flag(zone, ZONE_CONGESTED);
> > >                                 if (i <= pgdat->high_zoneidx)
> > >                                         any_zone_ok = 1;
> > 
> > zone_clear_flag(zone, ZONE_CONGESTED) only clear one zone status. other
> > zone remain old status.
> > 
> 
> Ah now I get you. kswapd does not necessarily balance all zones so it needs
> to unconditionally clear them all before it goes to sleep in case. At
> some time in the future, the tagging of ZONE_CONGESTED needs more
> thinking about.
>

This is a option.


> > > > Say, we have to fill below condition.
> > > >  - All zone are successing zone_watermark_ok(order-0)
> > > 
> > > We should loop around at least once with order == 0 where all_zones_ok
> > > is checked.
> > 
> > But no gurantee. IOW kswapd early stopping increase GFP_ATOMIC allocation
> > failure risk, I think.
> > 
> 
> Force all zones to be balanced for order-0?

Yes.

I think following change does.

	if (i <= pgdat->high_zoneidx)
- 		 any_zone_ok = 1;
+		order = sc.order = 0;


This is more conservative.



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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20101115195246.GB17387@hostway.ca>
2010-11-22 23:44 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  1:34   ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-23  8:35   ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-24  8:46     ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-25  1:07       ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-25  9:03         ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-25 10:18           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-25 17:13             ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-26  0:33               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-25 10:51           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-25 16:15             ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-26  2:00               ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-26  2:31                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26  2:40                   ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-26  9:18                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-29  1:03                       ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-29  1:13                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26  0:07             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-25 16:12           ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-26  1:05             ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-26  1:25               ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-26  2:05                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-26 11:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26 11:11               ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30  6:31                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 10:41                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30 11:19                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-11-30  8:22             ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-29  9:31       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 10:04   ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-24  6:43     ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-24  9:27       ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-24 19:17         ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-25  1:18           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26 15:48             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-30  0:25               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 19:10                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-01 10:17                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01 15:29                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-02  2:44                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-02 14:39                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-11-30  9:13               ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-30 19:13                 ` Christoph Lameter

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