From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor.
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:54:43 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101130175443.f01f4d09.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101130172710.38de418b.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:27:10 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:15:37 +0900
> Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ideally, I hope we unify global and memcg of kswapd for easy
> > maintainance if it's not a big problem.
> > When we make patches about lru pages, we always have to consider what
> > I should do for memcg.
> > And when we review patches, we also should consider what the patch is
> > missing for memcg.
> > It makes maintainance cost big. Of course, if memcg maintainers is
> > involved with all patches, it's no problem as it is.
> >
> I know it's not. But thread control of kswapd will not have much merging point.
> And balance_pgdat() is fully replaced in patch/3. The effort for merging seems
> not big.
>
kswapd's balance_pgdat() is for following
- reclaim pages within a node.
- balancing zones in a pgdat.
memcg's background reclaim needs followings.
- reclaim pages within a memcg
- reclaim pages from arbitrary zones, if it's fair, it's good.
But it's not important from which zone the pages are reclaimed from.
(I'm not sure we can select "the oldest" pages from divided LRU.)
Then, merging will put 2 _very_ different functionalities into 1 function.
So, I thought it's simpler to implement
1. a victim node selector (This algorithm will never be in kswapd.)
2. call _existing_ try_to_free_pages_mem_cgroup() with node local zonelist.
Sharing is enough.
kswapd stop/go routine may be able to be shared. But this patch itself seems not
very good to me.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-30 9:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-30 6:49 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:15 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-30 8:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-11-30 20:40 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 23:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:15 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 6:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:59 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 8:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:26 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 20:17 ` Ying Han
2010-12-01 0:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 19:21 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 12:33 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-07 17:28 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 1:24 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 1:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 2:10 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 2:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 12:19 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-08 7:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-07 18:50 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 7:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-08 7:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add per cgroup reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:44 ` Ying Han
2010-12-01 0:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] Per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 22:01 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 22:00 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 2:25 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 5:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-01 2:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01 2:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add more per memcg stats Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 18:22 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 6:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 7:03 ` Ying Han
2010-12-02 14:41 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 2:29 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 9:05 ` Ying Han
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