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From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Ciju Rajan K <ciju@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] memcg: document cgroup dirty memory interfaces
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:48:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101020094821.75c70fe3.nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101020091109.ccd7b39a.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:11:09 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:00:58 -0700
> Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com> wrote:
> 
(snip)
> > +When use_hierarchy=0, each cgroup has independent dirty memory usage and limits.
> > +
> > +When use_hierarchy=1, a parent cgroup increasing its dirty memory usage will
> > +compare its total_dirty memory (which includes sum of all child cgroup dirty
> > +memory) to its dirty limits.  This keeps a parent from explicitly exceeding its
> > +dirty limits.  However, a child cgroup can increase its dirty usage without
> > +considering the parent's dirty limits.  Thus the parent's total_dirty can exceed
> > +the parent's dirty limits as a child dirties pages.
> 
> Hmm. in short, dirty_ratio in use_hierarchy=1 doesn't work as an user expects.
> Is this a spec. or a current implementation ?
> 
> I think as following.
>  - add a limitation as "At setting chidlren's dirty_ratio, it must be below parent's.
>    If it exceeds parent's dirty_ratio, EINVAL is returned."
> 
> Could you modify setting memory.dirty_ratio code ?
> Then, parent's dirty_ratio will never exceeds its own. (If I understand correctly.)
> 
> "memory.dirty_limit_in_bytes" will be a bit more complecated, but I think you can.
> 
I agree.

At the first impression, this limitation seems a bit overkill for me, because
we allow memory.limit_in_bytes of a child bigger than that of parent now.
But considering more, the situation is different, because usage_in_bytes never
exceeds limit_in_bytes.


Thanks,
Daisuke Nishimura.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-20  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-19  0:39 [PATCH v3 00/11] memcg: per cgroup dirty page accounting Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] memcg: add page_cgroup flags for dirty page tracking Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  4:31   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] memcg: document cgroup dirty memory interfaces Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:46   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-19  8:27   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19 21:00     ` Greg Thelen
2010-10-20  0:11       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  0:45         ` Greg Thelen
2010-10-20  4:06           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  4:25             ` Greg Thelen
2010-10-20  4:26               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  0:48         ` Daisuke Nishimura [this message]
2010-10-20  1:14           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  2:24             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  3:47               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] memcg: create extensible page stat update routines Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:47   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-19  4:52   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] memcg: add lock to synchronize page accounting and migration Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:45   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-19  4:43     ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: move_account optimization by reduct put,get page (Re: " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-19  4:45       ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] memcg: move_account optimization by reduce locks " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-19  1:17   ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  5:03   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] memcg: add dirty page accounting infrastructure Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:49   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  0:53   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] memcg: add kernel calls for memcg dirty page stats Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:51   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-19  7:03   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] memcg: add dirty limits to mem_cgroup Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:53   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  0:50   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-20  4:08     ` Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] memcg: CPU hotplug lockdep warning fix Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:54   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  3:47   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] memcg: add cgroupfs interface to memcg dirty limits Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:56   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  3:31   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-20  3:44     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  3:46     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] writeback: make determine_dirtyable_memory() static Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  0:57   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  3:47   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-19  0:39 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] memcg: check memcg dirty limits in page writeback Greg Thelen
2010-10-19  1:00   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  4:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  4:33       ` Greg Thelen
2010-10-20  4:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  4:34       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-20  5:25   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-20  3:21 ` [PATCH][memcg+dirtylimit] Fix overwriting global vm dirty limit setting by memcg (Re: [PATCH v3 00/11] memcg: per cgroup dirty page accounting KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  4:14   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  5:02   ` [PATCH v2][memcg+dirtylimit] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-20  6:09     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-20 14:35     ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-21  0:10       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-24 18:44     ` Greg Thelen
2010-10-25  0:24       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-25  2:00       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-10-25  7:03       ` Ciju Rajan K
2010-10-25  7:08         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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