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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, robm@fastmail.fm,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Subject: Re: Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad for file/email/web servers
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:04:54 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100927110417.6B34.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100921100522.be252b3d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

> On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:01:32 +0900 (JST)
> KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, sadly intel motherboard turn on zone_reclaim_mode by default. and
> > current zone_reclaim_mode doesn't fit file/web server usecase ;-)
> > 
> > So, I've created new proof concept patch. This doesn't disable zone_reclaim
> > at all. Instead, distinguish for file cache and for anon allocation and
> > only file cache doesn't use zone-reclaim.
> > 
> > That said, high-end hpc user often turn on cpuset.memory_spread_page and
> > they avoid this issue. But, why don't we consider avoid it by default?
> > 
> > 
> > Rob, I wonder if following patch help you. Could you please try it?
> > 
> > 
> > Subject: [RFC] vmscan: file cache doesn't use zone_reclaim by default
> > 
> 
> Hm, can't we use migration of file caches rather than pageout in
> zone_reclaim_mode ? Doent' it fix anything ?

Doesn't.

Two problem. 1) Migration makes copy. then it's slower than zone_reclaim=0
2) Migration is only effective if target node has much free pages. but it
is not generic assumption.

For this case, zone_reclaim_mode=0 is best. my patch works as second best.
your one works as third.

If you have more concern, please let us know it.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-27  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1284349152.15254.1394658481@webmail.messagingengine.com>
2010-09-16 10:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 17:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17  0:50     ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-17  6:01       ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-17  7:32         ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-17 13:56           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 14:09             ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-17 14:22               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 23:01                 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-20  9:34   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-20 23:41     ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad forfile/email/web servers Rob Mueller
2010-09-21  9:04       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-21 14:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-22  3:44           ` Rob Mueller
2010-09-27  2:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-27 13:53           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 23:17             ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-28 12:35               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 12:42                 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-28 12:49                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30  7:05             ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-04 12:45             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-04 13:07               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-05  5:32                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-04 19:43               ` David Rientjes
2010-09-21  1:05   ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad for file/email/web servers KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-27  2:04     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-09-27  2:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-23 11:44   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-30  8:38   ` Bron Gondwana

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