From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, Rob Mueller <robm@fastmail.fm>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad forfile/email/web servers
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:01:41 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100927110049.6B31.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100921090407.GA11439@csn.ul.ie>
Hi
> No doubt this is true. The only real difference is that there are more NUMA
> machines running mail/web/file servers now than there might have been in the
> past. The default made sense once upon a time. Personally I wouldn't mind
> the default changing but my preference would be that distribution packages
> installing on NUMA machines would prompt if the default should be changed if it
> is likely to be of benefit for that package (e.g. the mail, file and web ones).
At first impression, I thought this is cute idea. But, after while thinking, I've found some
weak point. The problem is, too many package need to disable zone_reclaim_mode.
zone_reclaim doesn't works fine if an application need large working set rather than
local node size. It mean major desktop applications (e.g. OpenOffice.org, Firefox, GIMP)
need to disable zone_reclaim. It mean even though basic package installation require
zone_reclaim disabling. Then, this mechanism doesn't works practically. Even though
the user hope to use the machine for hpc, disable zone_reclaim will be turn on anyway.
Probably, opposite switch (default is zone_reclaim=0, and installation MPI library change
to zone_reclaim=1) might works. but I can guess why you don't propose this one.
Hmm....
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2010-09-16 10:01 ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad for file/email/web servers KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 17:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 0:50 ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-17 6:01 ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-17 7:32 ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-17 13:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 14:09 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-17 14:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-17 23:01 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-20 9:34 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-20 23:41 ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad forfile/email/web servers Rob Mueller
2010-09-21 9:04 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-21 14:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-22 3:44 ` Rob Mueller
2010-09-27 2:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-09-27 13:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 23:17 ` Robert Mueller
2010-09-28 12:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 12:42 ` Bron Gondwana
2010-09-28 12:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30 7:05 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-04 12:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-04 13:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-05 5:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-04 19:43 ` David Rientjes
2010-09-21 1:05 ` Default zone_reclaim_mode = 1 on NUMA kernel is bad for file/email/web servers KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-27 2:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-27 2:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-23 11:44 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-30 8:38 ` Bron Gondwana
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