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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] big continuous memory allocator v2
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:03:54 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100907180354.a8dd5669.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100907104635.2a02a1ca@basil.nowhere.org>

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:46:35 +0200
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:25:59 +0900
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:29:21 +0200
> > Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > This is a page allcoator based on memory migration/hotplug code.
> > > > passed some small tests, and maybe easier to read than previous
> > > > one.
> > > 
> > > Maybe I'm missing context here, but what is the use case for this?
> > > 
> > 
> > I hear some drivers want to allocate xxMB of continuous area.(camera?)
> > Maybe embeded guys can answer the question.
> 
> Ok what I wanted to say -- assuming you can make this work
> nicely, and the delays (swap storms?) likely caused by this are not
> too severe, it would be interesting for improving the 1GB pages on x86.
> 

Oh, I didn't consider that. Hmm. If x86 really wants to support 1GB page,
MAX_ORDER should be raised. (I'm sorry if it was already disccused.)


> This would be a major use case and probably be enough
> to keep the code around.
> 
> But it depends on how well it works.
> 
Sure.

> e.g. when the zone is already fully filled how long
> does the allocation of 1GB take?
> 
Maybe not very quick, even slow.

> How about when parallel programs are allocating/freeing
> in it too?
> 
This code doesn't assume that. I wonder I should add mutex because this code
generates IPI for draining some per-cpu lists.

I think 1GB pages should be preallocated as current hugepage does.


> What's the worst case delay under stress?
> 
memory offline itself is robust against stress because it make
pageblock ISOLATED. But memory allocation of 1GB is problem.
I have an idea (see below).

> Does it cause swap storms?
> 
Maybe same as allocating 1GB of memory when memory is full.
It's LRU matter.


> One issue is also that it would be good to be able to decide
> in advance if the OOM killer is likely triggered (and if yes
> reject the allocation in the first place). 
> 

Checking the amount of memory and swap before starts ? 
It sounds nice. I'd like to add something.

Or changing my patche's logic as..

  1. allocates required migration target pages (of 1GB)
  2. start migration to allocated pages.
  3. create a big page. 

Then, we can use some GFP_XXXX at (1) and can do some tuning as usual
vm codes.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-07  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-07  2:45 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-07  7:29 ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-07  8:25   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-07  8:46     ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-07  9:03       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-09-07  9:45         ` Andi Kleen
2010-09-07  8:37 ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-07  8:47   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-07 14:51     ` Minchan Kim

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