From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Daniel Kiper <dkiper@net-space.pl>,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, v.tolstov@selfip.ru,
Dulloor <dulloor@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] GSoC 2010 - Memory hotplug support for Xen guests - third fully working version
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:23:52 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100826102352.9d7bcfd0.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C758C12.2020107@goop.org>
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:33:06 -0700
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
> >> 2 requires a deeper understanding of the existing hotplug code. It
> >> needs to be refactored so that you can use the core hotplug machinery
> >> without enabling the sysfs page-onlining mechanism, while still leaving
> >> it available for physical hotplug. In the short term, having a boolean
> >> to disable the onlining mechanism is probably the pragmatic solution, so
> >> the balloon code can simply disable it.
> > I think that sysfs should stay intact because it contains some
> > useful information for admins. We should reconsider avaibilty
> > of /sys/devices/system/memory/probe. In physical systems it
> > is available however usage without real hotplug support
> > lead to big crash. I am not sure we should disable probe in Xen.
> > Maybe it is better to stay in sync with standard behavior.
> > Second solution is to prepare an interface (kernel option
> > or only some enable/disable functions) which give possibilty
> > to enable/disable probe interface when it is required.
>
> My understanding is that on systems with real physical hotplug memory,
> the process is:
>
> 1. you insert/enable a DIMM or whatever to make the memory
> electrically active
> 2. the kernel notices this and generates a udev event
> 3. a usermode script sees this and, according to whatever policy it
> wants to implement, choose to online the memory at some point
>
> I'm concerned that if we partially implement this but leave "online" as
> a timebomb then existing installs with hotplug scripts in place may poke
> at it - thinking they're dealing with physical hotplug - and cause problems.
>
IIUC, IBM guys, using LPAR?, does memory hotplug on VM.
The operation is.
1. tell the region of memory to be added to a userland daemon.
2. The daemon write 0xXXXXXX > /sys/devices/system/memory/probe
(This notifies that memory is added physically.)
Here, memory is created.
3. Then, online memory.
I think VM guys can use similar method rather than simulating phyiscal hotplug.
Then, you don't have to worry about udev etc...
No ?
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-26 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-12 1:22 Daniel Kiper
2010-08-13 0:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-16 15:44 ` Daniel Kiper
2010-08-25 21:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-26 1:23 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-08-13 0:46 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-13 0:48 ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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