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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 2/2] oom: kill all threads sharing oom killed task's mm
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:17:18 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100819201641.5FD0.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819170642.5FAE.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > 
> > > > This is especially necessary to solve an mm->mmap_sem livelock issue
> > > > whereas an oom killed thread must acquire the lock in the exit path while
> > > > another thread is holding it in the page allocator while trying to
> > > > allocate memory itself (and will preempt the oom killer since a task was
> > > > already killed).  Since tasks with pending fatal signals are now granted
> > > > access to memory reserves, the thread holding the lock may quickly
> > > > allocate and release the lock so that the oom killed task may exit.
> > > 
> > > I can't understand this sentence. mm sharing is happen when vfork, That
> > > said, parent process is always sleeping. why do we need to worry that parent
> > > process is holding mmap_sem?
> > > 
> > 
> > No, I'm talking about threads with CLONE_VM and not CLONE_THREAD (or 
> > CLONE_VFORK, in your example).  They share the same address space but are 
> > in different tgid's and may sit holding mm->mmap_sem looping in the page 
> > allocator while we know we're oom and there's no chance of freeing any 
> > more memory since the oom killer doesn't kill will other tasks have yet to 
> > exit.
> 
> Why don't you use pthread library? Is there any good reason? That said,
> If you are trying to optimize neither thread nor vfork case, I'm not charmed
> this because 99.99% user don't use it. but even though every user will get 
> performance degression. Can you please consider typical use case optimization?

That said, This was NAKed while this patch makes end user unhappy. please
fix it.




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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-19 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-17  1:15 [patch v2 1/2] oom: avoid killing a task if a thread sharing its mm cannot be killed David Rientjes
2010-08-17  1:16 ` [patch v2 2/2] oom: kill all threads sharing oom killed task's mm David Rientjes
2010-08-18  2:08   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19  5:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-19  8:03     ` David Rientjes
2010-08-19  8:10       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-19 11:17         ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-08-19 20:48         ` David Rientjes
2010-08-20  0:31           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-20  9:05             ` David Rientjes
2010-08-18  2:07 ` [patch v2 1/2] oom: avoid killing a task if a thread sharing its mm cannot be killed KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18  2:36   ` David Rientjes
2010-08-18  3:11     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18  3:43       ` David Rientjes
2010-08-18  3:55         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18  8:11           ` David Rientjes

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