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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:45:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100819164534.GB1345@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819160612.GF19797@csn.ul.ie>

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 05:06:12PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
 > Mel. Could you consider normal(or small) system but has two core at least?
> 
> I did consider it but I was not keen on the idea of small systems behaving
> very differently to large systems in this regard. I thought there was a
> danger that a problem problem would be hidden by such a move.
> 
> > I means we apply you rule according to the number of CPU and RAM size. (ie,
> > threshold value). 
> > Now mobile system begin to have two core in system and above 1G RAM. 
> > Such case, it has threshold 8.
> > 
> > It is unlikey to happen livelock.
> > Is it worth to have such overhead in such system? 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> 
> Such overhead could be avoided if we made a check like the following in
> refresh_zone_stat_thresholds()
> 
>                 /*
>                  * Only set percpu_drift_mark if there is a danger that
>                  * NR_FREE_PAGES reports the low watermark is ok when in fact
>                  * the min watermark could be breached by an allocation
>                  */
>                 tolerate_drift = low_wmark_pages(zone) - min_wmark_pages(zone);
>                 max_drift = num_online_cpus() * threshold;
>                 if (max_drift > tolerate_drift)
>                         zone->percpu_drift_mark = high_wmark_pages(zone)
> 					+ max_drift;
> 
> Would this be preferable?

Yes. It looks good to me. 

> 
> -- 
> Mel Gorman
> Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
> University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-19 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-16  9:42 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:04   ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 15:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17  2:21   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17  9:59     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 14:25       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  2:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:43   ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:47     ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 16:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17  2:26       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 10:42         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 15:01           ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 15:05             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 10:16       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 11:05         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 14:20         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  8:51           ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18 14:57             ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19  8:06               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 10:33                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 10:38                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:01                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 14:09                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:34                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:07                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:22                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:40                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:44                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:46     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 16:06       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 16:45         ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-08-18  2:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18 15:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19  0:07       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 19:00         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 23:49           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20  0:22             ` [PATCH] vmstat : update zone stat threshold at onlining a cpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20 14:54               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-20 17:29                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-23  7:18               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:50   ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-17  2:57   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  3:02   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 14:47   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:10     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  8:00 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 12:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:03     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 13:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:55         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 16:04           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 16:13             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V3 Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-31 23:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01  7:24     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-01  7:33       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 20:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-01 20:34           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-02  0:24             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:26               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02  0:39                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:43   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:49     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02  8:51     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:55   ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-03 23:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-03 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04  0:54         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-05 18:12     ` Mel Gorman

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