From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch 16/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:26:20 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100630181153.AA45.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1006211344240.31743@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
> > > It was in the changelog (recall that the badness() function represents a
> > > proportion of available memory used by a task, so subtracting 30 is the
> > > equivalent of 3% of available memory):
> > >
> > > Root tasks are given 3% extra memory just like __vm_enough_memory()
> > > provides in LSMs. In the event of two tasks consuming similar amounts of
> > > memory, it is generally better to save root's task.
> >
> > LSMs have obvious reason to tend to priotize admin's operation than root
> > privilege daemon. otherwise admins can't restore troubles.
> >
> > But in this case, why do need priotize admin shell than daemons?
> >
>
> For the same reason. We want to slightly bias admin shells and their
> processes from being oom killed because they are typically in the business
> of administering the machine and resolving issues that may arise. It
> would be irresponsible to consider them to have the same killing
> preference as user tasks in the case of a tie.
Not same. Administrator freely login again. typically killing login
process makes to kill some processes in the same session. thus now they
have much memory. rest very few case, they can press SysRq+F as a last
resort.
In the other hand, system daemon crash can makes all of system crash.
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Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-06 22:33 [patch 00/18] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 01/18] oom: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads David Rientjes
2010-06-07 12:12 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-07 19:50 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:33 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:40 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 02/18] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives David Rientjes
2010-06-07 12:58 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-07 13:49 ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-07 19:49 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:42 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 20:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-08 20:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-08 21:34 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:50 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 03/18] oom: dump_tasks use find_lock_task_mm too David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 0:06 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 04/18] oom: PF_EXITING check should take mm into account David Rientjes
2010-06-08 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 05/18] oom: give current access to memory reserves if it has been killed David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:47 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-14 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 0:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 06/18] oom: avoid sending exiting tasks a SIGKILL David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 20:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09 6:32 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 16:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09 19:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 20:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-10 0:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10 1:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-10 1:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10 1:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 07/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:51 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 19:27 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-02 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-04 22:08 ` David Rientjes
2010-07-09 3:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 20:23 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 0:25 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 08/18] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:53 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 20:33 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 0:30 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 09/18] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 21:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 21:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09 0:46 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:43 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 0:40 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 10/18] oom: enable oom tasklist dump by default David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:56 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 0:52 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 11/18] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 12/18] oom: extract panic helper function David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 13/18] oom: remove special handling for pagefault ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 21:27 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 14/18] oom: move sysctl declarations to oom.h David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 15/18] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 16/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:02 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17 5:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 20:47 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-30 9:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-06-17 5:12 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 22:58 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17 5:32 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-06 22:34 ` [patch 17/18] oom: add forkbomb penalty to badness heuristic David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:15 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-06 22:35 ` [patch 18/18] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 19:00 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:18 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17 3:36 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 20:54 ` David Rientjes
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