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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/T/D][PATCH 2/2] Linux/Guest cooperative unmapped page cache control
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:54:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100611105441.ee657515.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1276214852.6437.1427.camel@nimitz>

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:07:32 -0700
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 19:55 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > > I'm not sure victimizing unmapped cache pages is a good idea.
> > > Shouldn't page selection use the LRU for recency information instead
> > > of the cost of guest reclaim?  Dropping a frequently used unmapped
> > > cache page can be more expensive than dropping an unused text page
> > > that was loaded as part of some executable's initialization and
> > > forgotten.
> > 
> > We victimize the unmapped cache only if it is unused (in LRU order).
> > We don't force the issue too much. We also have free slab cache to go
> > after.
> 
> Just to be clear, let's say we have a mapped page (say of /sbin/init)
> that's been unreferenced since _just_ after the system booted.  We also
> have an unmapped page cache page of a file often used at runtime, say
> one from /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/passwd.
> 

Hmm. I'm not fan of estimating working set size by calculation
based on some numbers without considering history or feedback.

Can't we use some kind of feedback algorithm as hi-low-watermark, random walk
or GA (or somehing more smart) to detect the size ?

Thanks,
-Kame




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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-11  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-08 15:51 [RFC/T/D][PATCH 0/2] KVM page cache optimization (v2) Balbir Singh
2010-06-08 15:51 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Linux/Guest unmapped page cache control Balbir Singh
2010-06-13 18:31   ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14  0:28     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14  6:49       ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14  7:00         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-14  7:36           ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14  7:49             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-08 15:51 ` [RFC/T/D][PATCH 2/2] Linux/Guest cooperative " Balbir Singh
2010-06-10  9:43   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-10 14:25     ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11  0:07       ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-11  1:54         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-06-11  4:46           ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11  5:05             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11  5:08               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11  6:14               ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-11  4:56         ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14  8:09           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14  8:48             ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 12:40               ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 12:50                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 13:01                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 15:33                     ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:44                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 15:55                         ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 16:34                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 17:45                             ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15  6:58                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15  7:49                                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15  9:44                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 10:18                                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:58                             ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-15  7:07                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 14:47                                 ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 11:39                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-17  6:04                                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 15:12               ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 15:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 17:40                   ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15  7:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-14 16:58                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-14 17:09                   ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-14 17:16                     ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15  7:12                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15  7:52                         ` Balbir Singh
2010-06-15  9:54                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 12:49                             ` Balbir Singh

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